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Filthy Infidel
Californian CottonPickers
#1 - 2015-12-07 12:44:59 UTC
Give players/Corporations ability to buy mining License from NPC Corporations, or player owned systems in nullsec.

These Licenses could be adjusted to be 1 day, 1 week, or 1 month. There should also be low grade mining License, medium grade and high grade, which gives increasing higher yield and different types. In all a player/corp could set up a custom License that suits the miners needs in both length, wanted astroids and Security. These licensenses would give th miner/miners, exclusiveness to the site the have payed for.

The better sites, better yield and better Security... the higher price.

Also make the Licenses in such way that it aint a item that can be resold to avoid profittering by big Rich Corporations.

Also make the highest Security on license in such way that gankers cant track the miners down...
Solecist Project
#2 - 2015-12-07 13:00:52 UTC
We already have a mining license in highsec ...
... though it can be ignored mostly.

I don't see the point of your idea. It sounds like you're a miner and only
want this for your own good. Who would enforce such security, btw?
Who will pu ish you if you lack such an NPC license?

This sounds completely backwards, but go on ...

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-12-07 13:12:15 UTC
Please show me your analysis for what this does to mineral and therefore construction prices 3/6/9/18 months into the future.

Really we need to see that to analyse this idea on its full merits.
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-12-07 14:11:07 UTC
So you want to pay for a license, or 'permit' as it were, that protects you from gankers? Hmmm...

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#5 - 2015-12-07 14:29:06 UTC
Paying for Gank free mining would be terrible for competition. The older players pay for safety and can fit for max yield to make even MORE money, whilst New players who cant afford it are the only targets left for gankers.

Very bad idea.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#6 - 2015-12-07 14:41:01 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
We already have a mining license in highsec ...
... though it can be ignored mostly.

Better be clear, the GAME does not have mining licenses, CODE and perhaps a few other groups try to enforce a mining license paid to them.

Daichi Yamato wrote:
Paying for Gank free mining would be terrible for competition. The older players pay for safety and can fit for max yield to make even MORE money, whilst New players who cant afford it are the only targets left for gankers.

Very bad idea.

This ^^
Solecist Project
#7 - 2015-12-07 15:41:47 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
We already have a mining license in highsec ...
... though it can be ignored mostly.

Better be clear, the GAME does not have mining licenses, CODE and perhaps a few other groups try to enforce a mining license paid to them.

Daichi Yamato wrote:
Paying for Gank free mining would be terrible for competition. The older players pay for safety and can fit for max yield to make even MORE money, whilst New players who cant afford it are the only targets left for gankers.

Very bad idea.

This ^^

Agreed, I worded that lind of badly. :)

Have to add, though, that not flying a full yield covetor is only necessary if you mine afk anyway ...
... for which you should get your ship shot down in a glorious ball of fire.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#8 - 2015-12-07 16:50:19 UTC
show me on the mackinaw doll where the ganker touched you
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#9 - 2015-12-07 17:40:29 UTC
If you want rights to mine in some ones space then contact them and thrash out a deal or see if you can join a corp in their alliance.

As to obtaining unenforceable licences of no practical use from NPC corps why would anyone bother? It just sounds like another pointless hoop to jump through I'm afraid. The only marginal positive I can see in it would be that it would be another ISK sink.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#10 - 2015-12-07 22:20:40 UTC
we have mining licences - they are called being a capsuleer and being able to fight off those who come at you/having other people to fight for you.

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2015-12-09 15:17:54 UTC
Filthy Infidel wrote:
Give players/Corporations ability to buy mining License from NPC Corporations, or player owned systems in nullsec.

These Licenses could be adjusted to be 1 day, 1 week, or 1 month. There should also be low grade mining License, medium grade and high grade, which gives increasing higher yield and different types. In all a player/corp could set up a custom License that suits the miners needs in both length, wanted astroids and Security. These licensenses would give th miner/miners, exclusiveness to the site the have payed for.

The better sites, better yield and better Security... the higher price.

Also make the Licenses in such way that it aint a item that can be resold to avoid profittering by big Rich Corporations.

Also make the highest Security on license in such way that gankers cant track the miners down...


Wanna better ore ? Get your ass out of highsec and start accepting Risks.

-1
Xavindo Sirober
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2015-12-10 02:13:34 UTC
-1


If i wanted a mining license, i would ask CODE
Lament von Gankenheim
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#13 - 2015-12-10 04:58:13 UTC
CODE. *
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-12-10 09:43:32 UTC
You can already buy a mining license from players, and there is no need to buy it from NPCs as those who own space won't shoot you anyway, unless you aren't on friendly terms with them. I suppose there could be a license to mine without being disturbed by belt rats, but something tells me it would be less effective than buying one from players.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#15 - 2015-12-11 02:41:04 UTC
Creating protected areas in space is not a good idea. While I miss that people had to scan down the ore anomalies, I understand the issue of creating a low barrier of entry for both miner and attacker.

Also, when you are dealing with NPCs: there already exists a "mineral license" of sorts - you can often find decent mineral deposits in a variety of existing missions that NPCs offer. You can even avoid completing the mission to allow the minerals to re-spawn the next day.

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#16 - 2015-12-11 04:38:16 UTC
Unfortunately they no longer respawn the next day.

One storyline mission I remember had a pocket with several massive rocks. Massive as in several rich plag rocks with 900 000 inits each and pyrox rocks with 80k each. Bastards didnt repawn.

#nerfhisec

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Luna Arindale
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#17 - 2015-12-11 14:08:31 UTC
Only acceptable if the permit makes you unprofitable