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Anthar Thebess
#21 - 2015-12-11 08:34:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Anthar Thebess
Consider also that isk payout for the pirate LP is very low when compared to other sources.

If you have all V social skills you get 6.000 - 15.000 LP per mission - in order to do it you need to use similar ship you will do missions in higsec.
Assuming 2500isk per lp this give you 15.000.000 -37.500.000 per mission. Some people could say that his is a lot , but then we have something like Lowsec LVL 5 missions or FW , where you can get 3-4 times more in the same amount time,
Till the last patch change, you could do easily FW missions in a 30mil bomber - and good farmers could yeald up to 700mil per hour.
Next thing are higsec incursions giving you 250mil/h - 100% safe in a cozy CONCORD protected space.


Supply and demand , not to many people want to do pirate missions - they can provide good isk , but you can get the same (or more) isk doing incursions , or much more running LVL 5 or farming FW.

2-3 years ago this missions provided income for nullsec pirates raiding sov space , currently this changed a lot , and most of the groups fallen apart , or moved to lowsec. People can make more isk there , or by farming escalations in nullspace. For me this is bad change , as because of this "fun" you could get living in NPC or Sov space was greatly reduced.

You can easily assume that 50% ( maybe more ) pirate implants come not from LP store, but from faction drops, that are more often , as chance for escalation was increased.

For me current value of pirate LP is so low (compared to LVL 5 or FW) that i don't even care to pull any stuff from LP store.

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Ruvin
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2015-12-11 10:57:59 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Consider also that isk payout for the pirate LP is very low when compared to other sources.

If you have all V social skills you get 6.000 - 15.000 LP per mission - in order to do it you need to use similar ship you will do missions in higsec.
Assuming 2500isk per lp this give you 15.000.000 -37.500.000 per mission. Some people could say that his is a lot , but then we have something like Lowsec LVL 5 missions or FW , where you can get 3-4 times more in the same amount time,
Till the last patch change, you could do easily FW missions in a 30mil bomber - and good farmers could yeald up to 700mil per hour.
Next thing are higsec incursions giving you 250mil/h - 100% safe in a cozy CONCORD protected space.


Supply and demand , not to many people want to do pirate missions - they can provide good isk , but you can get the same (or more) isk doing incursions , or much more running LVL 5 or farming FW.

2-3 years ago this missions provided income for nullsec pirates raiding sov space , currently this changed a lot , and most of the groups fallen apart , or moved to lowsec. People can make more isk there , or by farming escalations in nullspace. For me this is bad change , as because of this "fun" you could get living in NPC or Sov space was greatly reduced.

You can easily assume that 50% ( maybe more ) pirate implants come not from LP store, but from faction drops, that are more often , as chance for escalation was increased.

For me current value of pirate LP is so low (compared to LVL 5 or FW) that i don't even care to pull any stuff from LP store.


dude almost all you said is wrong :|
i have 4 in social i do mission and they usually are from 10k to 20k burners . (maybe cargo delivery gives less but it takes 30 seconds)
2500 isk per lp , thats 25-50kk per mission (which are ehm 3-5 minutes )
lowsec lvl 5 are (GREAT money) but they exchange ratio is 500isk per 1lp . So they do make sick bux but still not like you make it look like . FW (no idea never done)
ok incursions are sick bux aswell . but 250 is kinda far from "optimistic"
I duno there are plenty of ppl runing pirate missions , those mission bought many alliances entire titans and super fleets .
LVL 5 beats pirate missions , fw dont know , incursions and hs missions "do not"
the ppl i play with live in venal for 10 years , and other friends i know in stain are there for a lot of time also .

Did you know midgrade crystal is cheaper then low grade crystal ?
And you understimate the amounts of implants ppl export from lp .

you are really confused mate about npc null tbh

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#23 - 2015-12-14 03:09:01 UTC
Ruvin wrote:
...Did you know midgrade crystal is cheaper then low grade crystal ? ..


I noticed that when I was looking on eve-central and wondered how that came. But I was also wondering why we have a mid-grade in the first place.. Mysteries of CCP I guess.

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Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#24 - 2015-12-17 05:33:29 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
As said before, supply and demand is pretty much the long and short of it.


If you want to manipulate prices start a war where the product is made. CFC vs OOS and friends in venal might see an increase in pirate faction implant value.
Ruvin
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-12-17 10:15:34 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
As said before, supply and demand is pretty much the long and short of it.


If you want to manipulate prices start a war where the product is made. CFC vs OOS and friends in venal might see an increase in pirate faction implant value.


Mister Caled , you are in Razor , you are deployed at least in part in 6nj , we are at war and always were Pirate

What i am saying is the impact would be minimal you cant really hellcamp us for more then a day or two , you tryed , you got bored .
On the other hand gila nerf , that was a huge hit Shocked

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Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#26 - 2015-12-17 15:12:11 UTC
Ruvin wrote:
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
As said before, supply and demand is pretty much the long and short of it.


If you want to manipulate prices start a war where the product is made. CFC vs OOS and friends in venal might see an increase in pirate faction implant value.


Mister Caled , you are in Razor , you are deployed at least in part in 6nj , we are at war and always were Pirate

What i am saying is the impact would be minimal you cant really hellcamp us for more then a day or two , you tryed , you got bored .
On the other hand gila nerf , that was a huge hit Shocked


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