Player Features and Ideas Discussion

At first glance I was happy to see the boosts to the punisher. I played around with some fittings but in the end it feels like a useless ship.

With good skills it does average damage and has a monster tank (albeit buffer). This is all well and good, but why fly it?

Its very slow, especially with a plate buffer. It can't lock anything down with only 2 midslots. In medium to large frigate gangs, you aren't being targeted because your dps is low and you tank is big. In small gangs you are a liability because you are slow and can't tackle.

An Omen is nearly as mobile with better tackle, range, dps, EHP.

I feel like I am being a debbie downer about this but I just want a 4/3/4 or even 4/3/3 with the exact same stats on the punisher. A purest gunboat for the amarr frig user. (no damn drones plx)

Meanwhile the Rifter is a 4/3/3 but could easily be successful as a speed range frigate with 4/2/4. Admittedly the extra mid is for a possible shield extender/booster but frig combat isn't like all the other tiers and there are plenty of viable web/scramb rifters with a plate or ancillary rep.

to suck at stuff now.

Yeah, I reread the discussion here about it and I guess that was the goal. That being said, its still pretty uninspiring.

Kind of. I sold off all my characters and just have this guy. I am training for a confessor, I have been messing around with mid level setups on amarr ships. You definitely notice not having the cap bonus. You might argue lasers are not strong enough for how much cap they consume, I dunno. A coercer can't even function without that bonus. It runs out of cap from shooting its guns alone within a few minutes with mid level skills.

I guess the punisher is the noob boat now.

What exactly are you tackling?

things without prop mod. Afk or auto pilot fools. people that forget to turn there prop mod on.

That really depends. The cap bonus isnt redundant and the punishers 4th Gun is like having a rof role bonus of 25% (albeit to all turret types).

Edit- and the ab/scram tacke set up isnt bad at all.

Consider the sig radius. It'll be good in 1v1s against cruisers because they can't track it or kite it unless they can web outside of its attack range.

and it can fit autos to allow more fitting space save more on cap and the dmg doesn't change that much.

Gotta give a heavy tackle something to do.

Not that targets doesnt oftentimes lend a hand by closing the distance themselves.

FW lowsec space makes it reasonably easy, most people just sit at zero on the beacons.

Many will even engage on gates and stations, letting the sentries do all the work.

Unless you got an army, once scram is on that punishers going nowhere.