Missions & Complexes

Like I said, unhinged. You just verified what I said, yo see the writing on the wall and know you are losing this fight.

You think it takes a ceptor that long to cross 8k in warp? You think visually seeing a ceptor 1.5 seconds sooner, equals more safety? If a ratting BS or HAC is stupid enough to still be ratting when a ceptor gets on grid they deserve to explode.

Your letting your prejudice get the better of you, and posting erratically.

Ok lets look at this shall we.

My favourite ship the Megathon has more than doubled in price in the last 5 years.

Tritanium, lifeblood of EVE, has again, doubled in price. Pyrite, doubled. Mexallon, doubled.

Even the drake has doubled in price. You could buy a drake and fit it for less than the hull costs today. Anyone who says inflation hasn't happened either hasn't been paying attention or is too new to know any different.




That's not a good thing, it means we are making more isk than we can spend. We are hoarding isk.

Notice how the materials have doubled in price? That has nothing to do with the battleship changes. If the materials have doubled in price guess what happens to the build costs. It also doesn't matter how or why the price goes up what matters is that its gone up. Between bigger build costs and material costs inflation has happened.



The only ships that have fallen in price are the pirate faction ships and that is simply due to a massive increase in BPC drops. All the other ships are far more expensive than they used to be to the tune of doubling in price in near all cases.

I'm sating you have no idea how to use it.

Here is the simple fact, I am paying well over twice as much for my ships than five years ago. This means I need twice the income than before and because anoms are fixed with bounties they have effectively halfed in value while the LP stores rise with this inflation. This is why belt ratting went from good income to worthless over the last 12 years.

I really have no opinion on whether ship prices went up in real terms or not - but if they did change mineral prices are only a small component of ship construction costs most of its blueprint.

Just saying.

I used to be able to build multiple battleships a day out of reprocessed loot. Since then they have increased build quantities (for most ships in game, as they balanced the build costs to be in line with the most expensive versions), nerfed reprocessing, and removed t1 loot and drone poo from the loot tables. But also most tech 2 items cost 10-20 mil, and meta 4 stuff was expensive.

when you look at a basket of goods I'm sure deflation is the overall trend. but for some things prices are up. 45mil domis are now 200. and the I have to make 4mil/day to get a gtc is now... 40m/day. And a 9mil bcu II is now 750k. Hulks used to cost 500m. And most meta/faction/deadspace loot has gone way down in price.

For the most part we farm our resources at a faster pace than we grind isk. Would be awesome to have historical graphs. kinda annoys me that in game can only go back one year.

there are also things like the NPC shuttle removal, as it capped trit at 2.29 or so. there was some other item that had it capped even lower that got nerfed before that.

Onto null missions: Overall I think the progression with low/null missions works. But most null doesn't have access to missions. The Idea of an Agent module for citadels has been floated around. I would be interested to see how CCP does that.

FW vs WH. I can't comment much as I haven't done either extensively. but with FW if you pick the highest tier side and run for them it sounds like the LP is bonkers. With WH you seem limited by the amount of anoms you have access too. Although looks like a cap escalation has 585m in blue loot. plus a few 100m from the rest of the site.

markets: pure pvp, totally player driven. totally freaking awesome! As far as I'm concerned whatever isk you make there is yours, CCP shouldn't interfere with that.

Pfff not alot for 8 accounts over 2 weeks. terrible in fact.

i take it you make no-where near the reported "300m an hour"

More, i made 4.6b last night. only peasants undock.

the data doesn't lie.

There could be some flaws in some aspect of the analysis or some strange items in the CPI but hopefully the data set is random/big enough that it captures a good overall picture. Prices for some t1 ships changed by a lot, prices for nearly everything else went down. Overall I believe what it is saying.

On the velocity of isk: personally I spend almost all my isk, but there are plenty of bored trillionaires with a butt ton of isk. plus who knows how much sitting in corp wallets. Just because you spent a few billion doesn't mean squat for the velocity of isk for the population of eve. Spend a trillion and I'll be ever so slightly interested.

In case I missed it somewhere, what exactly is the proposal to buff null-sec income?

For the record I still disagree completely with sov null missions. We see what can be done with abusing the mission running systems in other spaces, and null PVErs are as adept at finding thinngs to abuse as anyone else. I would WRECK this game is you gave me any form of mission in sov null (even if it were FW still "light a beacon for everyone to see in enemy territory" style).

I prefer modifying anomalies. Add "Forlorn style" triggers to all anoms. Add random web/neut towers like in lvl 5 missions to anoms as well.

Cut the bounties in half and make wrecks drop tags or times that have to be collected, shipped to empire and traded to npcs for the other half of anom income (then adjust that income to make the risk). Less liquid isk coming in, most people will have to stop grinding to loot (or rely on MTUs that can be scanned down and killed, or maybe give newbros a job). And tags can possibly be intercepted in transit.

Tags partially or fully replacing bounties could also help alleviate the "cooperation penalty" anoms have. Because of the bounty system, the more people you pile into an anomaly, the less everyone makes because of how the system pays out. The incursion pay out system fixes this problem but might not be right for anomalies. What's better is how Wormhole Anoms pay out, which is the basis for my tag idea. NPC pirate tags already exist but are worthless, this could give them a purpose.