EVE General Discussion

My Amarr standigns are poor, .67 with Diplomacy 5, way negative without.

So I grind L4 missions for Ammar until I get an L4 storyline, complete it and standing rises to .9. Hurray! Do one mission against Amarr for SOE and standing drops to .41.

No credit for all the standard mission I do for a faction, and not enough increase from the storyline to counteract one mission against that faction.

So, where does this leave us? Mission runners are forced into declining missions against factions they have low standings with, which just cuts down significantly the missions they can accept, so they end up having to repeat the same few missions over and over.

I believe there should be some faction credit for running missions for a faction, maybe not as much as you lose, but it would make it realistic to accept all missions and maintain positive standings.

Thanks

Standings are rather strange in how they calculate, they haven't yet been shifted to the new system afaik. Keep in mind that EvE is not an elder scroll game, it isn't designed to allow maxing of everything. Some standings can be increased at the small cost of others but you will always be without max standing for every faction. It's just not mathematically possible, unfortunately.

No, the very old way it was where only positive standing was gained was scrapped for a reason.... that reason is easy... your choices NEED to have consequences, yes even running missions. To get rid of it really waters down the game taking any choice and negative consequences away from you, effectively suiting you up in bubble wrap so your choices dont come back to bite you.

Standings are just like money. Hard to gain, REALLY easy to lose.

That depends on your definition of "every faction". Many players in this context refer to the big 4 Caldari Amarr Minmatar Gallente as "Every faction". Epic arc mechanics allow you to be positive to all of these factions at once and significantly so.

You can also use the same mechanics to be high to all highsec factions such as SoE, Ammatar, Khanid etc by running storylines for these factions and getting extremely high with them while running Epic arcs periodically to keep "the big 4" high.

It takes forever but at least in the sense of "Every faction" excluding pirates and fringe groups like Thukker and so forth, it's very possible.

Dont run faction missions, problem solved.

There are a few very rare anti-faction missions you can do with no standing hit.

For example Blitzing this level 2 has no standing loss .

However generally if you care about opposing standings you decline opposing faction missions.

As you near better and better standings with someone, it get's progressively harder to continue to increase positively. However, in turn it simultaneously gets easier and easier to loose said standings. The same will be true in the reverse. For instance, having poor standings than the default neutral, 0, means that actions that cause the standings to deteriorate further will have increasingly less impact on your final standings, while positive gains will feel far more impacting than they normally would. The opposite occurs when your standings are above 0, and that effect continues to amplify as your standings near +10.

While actions you take that affect standings with others are often static numbers, they will differ from one another in severity depending on what you did and with whom. Also, the way that affects your standings in multiplicative, not additive, so the same action will not elevate or lower standings by the same amount every time you cause them to occur.

Think of it as a hidden multiplier being added to the equation every time you incur a standings change. If your standings are under 0, they increase gains and decrease losses. Above 0, and the multiplier increases losses and decreases gains. The multiplier also raises and lowers it's own amount separately, increasing as you either get closer to -10 or +10, then begins to return to a smaller amount as it nears the middle, again the neutral which is 0. It's almost similar in a way to how stacking penalties work. Diminishing returns, in complicated sort of way.

DMC's "Plan" is probably the absolutely best and fastest-to-run how-to on getting better standings with a host faction that you're going to find out there. I highly recommend you take a look at it, as others have suggested. I've been (slowly, lazily) repairing my standings with Gal/Min myself and it's still surprisingly faster than I thought it would be (think the Maker for -10 raw cap, or even that couldn't save me).

Several Social skills, like Social, Diplomacy, and Connections can not only help raise your "effective" standings with factions that you are in the negative with, but help increase positive gains to make it somewhat easier to get back to being neutral and even friendly.

Makes perfect sense to me that if you kill a bunch of ships belonging to a certain faction that you will lose standing towards that faction....

I'm pretty sure if you start killing your coworkers irl you will lose standing with your company, despite all your years of loyal service.

No.

You chose to support a NPC faction through actions against other NPC faction, so deal with the consequences.

In fact, NPC standings are nearly meaningless now, and should matter more.