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Sarab Saeed
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-12-05 13:31:24 UTC
Hi guys,

ok so after the initial hurdles I am kinda happy with what I am doing in New Eden :)

I am fast approaching the end of my initial agent missions and want to join the big bad world that is Eve. I fancy getting work for a Corp if that is possible. I have no idea how to go about this though. Is it possible to get work from other players or Corps and how do I it?

I see my self as a ship for hire at the moment, whether that is mining, transporting or fighting.

any advice for a girl looking to make her way in the universe?

Only we are responsible for our own actions

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2015-12-05 14:11:51 UTC
This game is very entrepreneurial. Yes there are corps that you can join but it's more of a social thing than an actual business like environment.

That does not mean that you can't be hired for things. Mercenaries and contract haulers and various other services for hire do exist. It's just that this is a game and to me it's more about figuring out what you enjoy doing and finding people that you enjoy doing that with.

So try out different aspects of the game. Don't limit yourself. Even if you think that you might not like something give it an honest try and find your playstyle. Along the way talk to lots of people and make friends or enemies, which ever your prefer.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-12-05 14:22:48 UTC
There is a stick up above this post and an in game UI to facilitate finding a new corp. Most recruiting corps have public chat channels that you can sit in and check out the corp for a long time before you join.

Socialize. Talk to people in local and just in general get to know people in this game and get a contacts list going.

In the begining you will be looking for a new player friendly corp. Most likely after you play for a bit and find your own style you'll want to move on to something more suiting to that new perspective. Not always however. The corp that my main is in has a lot of players that started in the corp and have been there for years.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

Sarab Saeed
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-12-05 14:47:35 UTC
thank you. I kind want to do freelance work until I figure out where I am heading in the game. Freelance work would take me to other places with a reason and on the way I can explore what I want from Eden :)

Only we are responsible for our own actions

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-12-05 16:04:25 UTC
Well play around with the market a bit and learn how it works then. Almost everything you do will end up in the market. It is possible to work through contracts or private deals that you make with people but it really depends on what you are doing and what your goals are.

I'd try minning and running some missions and doing some exploration maybe try faction warfare or get into a corp that can help you get into null sec or something like that. Definitely give exploration a try and if industry or PI is your thing give those a shot also.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

Solecist Project
#6 - 2015-12-05 17:35:56 UTC
Sarab Saeed wrote:
thank you. I kind want to do freelance work until I figure out where I am heading in the game. Freelance work would take me to other places with a reason and on the way I can explore what I want from Eden :)

Then I suggest skilling a few logistic skills up.

Logistics ... that's remote shield/armor boosting ... is always welcomed.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-12-05 17:52:58 UTC
Have you completed the Sisters of Eve epic quest? It's a good choice after the career missions as it takes you to all four empires, yields a lot of isk and a good jump to standings.

Freelancing will be affected by the fact that the default position for most Eve players is not to trust anyone - at least, not until they really get to know them. Building trust outside a Corp can be tough, especially for a new player, so as already suggested, get to know people in your favoured area/group.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

Syeed Ameer Ali
Dirtbag Space Warriors Coming for yor Loots
#8 - 2015-12-05 18:04:18 UTC
There aren't a whole lot of opportunities out there for what it sounds like you are describing. It seems as though you are hoping that player corporations go around hiring random neutrals to do random things. I'm not saying that never happens, but it's fairly unusual.

Players do hire random others for things like courier contracts. Anyone can run public courier contracts - but if you plan to do that you need to get good at recognizing scams - most legitimate contracts are directed to corporations like Red Frog Freight rather than made public. Other "freelance work" that players might hire someone for would be mercenary stuff. Again though, the normal thing to do is to hire an established mercenary corporation for that, not just some random person with no killboard history. Another example of "freelance work" might be suicide ganking for the New Order. They won't hire you, per se, but they will reimburse your losses, so you can turn a modest profit doing it. Or maybe you could go to a mission hub and spam in local that you want to salvage wrecks for people and someone might make a deal with you for that.

So there are opportunities out there for being a random solo person for hire I guess - just not very good or lucrative ones as a rule. Miner ganking could be fun, but courier contracts or salvaging sound dull as dirt. Frankly, I believe you are barking up the wrong tree and should just join a corporation like a normal person.
Solecist Project
#9 - 2015-12-05 21:03:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:
There aren't a whole lot of opportunities out there for what it sounds like you are describing. It seems as though you are hoping that player corporations go around hiring random neutrals to do random things. I'm not saying that never happens, but it's fairly unusual.

Players do hire random others for things like courier contracts. Anyone can run public courier contracts - but if you plan to do that you need to get good at recognizing scams - most legitimate contracts are directed to corporations like Red Frog Freight rather than made public. Other "freelance work" that players might hire someone for would be mercenary stuff. Again though, the normal thing to do is to hire an established mercenary corporation for that, not just some random person with no killboard history. Another example of "freelance work" might be suicide ganking for the New Order. They won't hire you, per se, but they will reimburse your losses, so you can turn a modest profit doing it. Or maybe you could go to a mission hub and spam in local that you want to salvage wrecks for people and someone might make a deal with you for that.

So there are opportunities out there for being a random solo person for hire I guess - just not very good or lucrative ones as a rule. Miner ganking could be fun, but courier contracts or salvaging sound dull as dirt. Frankly, I believe you are barking up the wrong tree and should just join a corporation like a normal person.


The amount of opportunities out there is absolutely gigantic! Her goals are admirable! Unlike the vast majority of people, she wants to seek out work and value, even if it's only in a temporary manner. There are always people out there looking for others to help them, to support them, to do some dirty work for them.

The issue is NOT that the opportunities are rare, the issue is that they are exactly that! Opportunities!


The best advise we can give her is to go out there, roam around, communicate with locals and seek it out herself.


I oppose the discouragement in your post, even if it's not intended.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Syeed Ameer Ali
Dirtbag Space Warriors Coming for yor Loots
#10 - 2015-12-05 21:17:27 UTC
Ok, Solecist. I agree with you that opportunities are out there, or to put it more clearly it is possible for a motivated individual to make their own opportunities in this game. If OP has a creative idea for a service s/he can provide and is willing to put in the work to reconcile that service with game mechanics and then sell it to other players, then s/he could be successful as a freelance worker of some sort. That much is true.

It kind of sounded like OP was actually looking for some EVE equivalent of one of those places where illegal day laborers hang out waiting for some random person to come by and take them home to pave their driveway for $40 cash or something. I'm not sure if any such thing exists in EVE right now. Maybe it should, though.
Solecist Project
#11 - 2015-12-05 21:38:37 UTC
Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:
Ok, Solecist. I agree with you that opportunities are out there, or to put it more clearly it is possible for a motivated individual to make their own opportunities in this game. If OP has a creative idea for a service s/he can provide and is willing to put in the work to reconcile that service with game mechanics and then sell it to other players, then s/he could be successful as a freelance worker of some sort. That much is true.

It kind of sounded like OP was actually looking for some EVE equivalent of one of those places where illegal day laborers hang out waiting for some random person to come by and take them home to pave their driveway for $40 cash or something. I'm not sure if any such thing exists in EVE right now. Maybe it should, though.



Quote:
It kind of sounded like OP was actually looking for some EVE equivalent of one of those places where illegal day laborers hang out waiting for some random person to come by and take them home to pave their driveway for $40 cash or something.
OMG that made me burst out in laughter! :D

It's not exactly like that, but such a thing exists indirectly. It really is as easy as roaming around, reading local chat and
waiting for someone to say the right thing. Bringing ones self into conversations works wonders as well. There is, luckily,
no such place as you describe it, though. Such a place would only ruin it for all of those like the OP who seem to like to
seek out adventures. :)

I've made quite the money just from roaming around. It's definitely doable, but you really have to love talking.
Simply roaming around in a logistic frigate in high/low, seeing a fight and convoing BOTH (ofc both! ;) to see ...

... who wants help ...
... needs help ...
... might be willing to pay for help ...
(in such situations that might end tricky. often it is more valueable not to ask for money)

... might all that's needed to start a long lasting career as famous space adventurer. :)


You seriously never tried this? Just roam around every day and see what's out there? Of course it takes time ...
... and of course it takes experience ... but all it really needs is roaming around being open for everything! :D


Not my best inspirational post, but it serves it's purpose. ^_^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-12-05 22:11:37 UTC
How to find the right corp for you.

Think of a corporation like a club, not a company. It's a group of people that enjoy doing certain things together. Recruiters are looking for people with a good attitude that will fit in. They're not really looking for someone to do specific "jobs" (in most cases anyway). If they are, they're probably just exploiting you.

EVE is a game. Do fun things with fun people. Once you start "working" for them, it will feel more like a job than a game and you will get bored and quit. Sure there are unique opportunities for work - things like selling wormhole locations or supplying markets for groups that are too lazy to do it themselves. But these things are really more like "self-employment" than "freelancing", and you should do them because you enjoy them, not because someone told you to.

Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli

Titan's Lament

Sarab Saeed
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-12-05 23:00:46 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Have you completed the Sisters of Eve epic quest? It's a good choice after the career missions as it takes you to all four empires, yields a lot of isk and a good jump to standings.

Freelancing will be affected by the fact that the default position for most Eve players is not to trust anyone - at least, not until they really get to know them. Building trust outside a Corp can be tough, especially for a new player, so as already suggested, get to know people in your favoured area/group.


Where do I find the Sisters of Eve quests? This sounds like something I'd be interested in. I figured that if I can work my way around Eden, then I'd eventually figure out what I like and what I don't like :)

Only we are responsible for our own actions

Sarab Saeed
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-12-05 23:02:00 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
[quote=Syeed Ameer Ali]

Her goals are admirable! Unlike the vast majority of people, she wants to seek out work and value, even if it's only in a temporary manner. .


:) x

Only we are responsible for our own actions

Solecist Project
#15 - 2015-12-05 23:03:43 UTC
Sarab Saeed wrote:
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:
Have you completed the Sisters of Eve epic quest? It's a good choice after the career missions as it takes you to all four empires, yields a lot of isk and a good jump to standings.

Freelancing will be affected by the fact that the default position for most Eve players is not to trust anyone - at least, not until they really get to know them. Building trust outside a Corp can be tough, especially for a new player, so as already suggested, get to know people in your favoured area/group.


Where do I find the Sisters of Eve quests? This sounds like something I'd be interested in. I figured that if I can work my way around Eden, then I'd eventually figure out what I like and what I don't like :)

Reminds me ...

Just because it fits to the topic: I recall one time I found drones at a gate. I picked them up and dropped them at the local station. The next day I saw a guy at the gate with the same ticker as the drones had, picked them up and gave them to him. He gave me ten million isk for that, far more than the drones were worth.

Why? Because people don't do this ****, but I grabbed the opportunity. Friends, ISK ... it's all out there.


Have fun! :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-12-05 23:58:06 UTC
Sarab Saeed wrote:

Where do I find the Sisters of Eve quests? This sounds like something I'd be interested in. I figured that if I can work my way around Eden, then I'd eventually figure out what I like and what I don't like :)


Faction : Sisters of EVE
Corporation : Sisters of EVE
Agent : Sister Alitura
Agent Level : 1
Location : Arnon IX - Moon 3 - Sisters of Eve Bureau
Epic Arc : The Blood-Stained Stars

This arc will allow you time to train up your Core Fitting Skills while making some ISK in the process. Also give you time to figure out what career choices you'd like to pursue.

Welcome to Eve and good luck, may you have a long and rewarding career here.



DMC
Sarab Saeed
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-12-06 00:04:02 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Sarab Saeed wrote:

Where do I find the Sisters of Eve quests? This sounds like something I'd be interested in. I figured that if I can work my way around Eden, then I'd eventually figure out what I like and what I don't like :)


Faction : Sisters of EVE
Corporation : Sisters of EVE
Agent : Sister Alitura
Agent Level : 1
Location : Arnon IX - Moon 3 - Sisters of Eve Bureau
Epic Arc : The Blood-Stained Stars

This arc will allow you time to train up your Core Fitting Skills while making some ISK in the process. Also give you time to figure out what career choices you'd like to pursue.

Welcome to Eve and good luck, may you have a long and rewarding career here.



DMC


I'm really looking forward to the years ahead. I think I have found my second home hehe

Only we are responsible for our own actions

Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#18 - 2015-12-06 01:17:40 UTC
+1 for Sister's epic arc. Good learning opportunity.

After that is completed, a player corp maybe ought to be your next priority. That change makes the game turn from a cold, bone-stale, black & white fog into a crisp image in vibrant color.
Or at least it can. Not all corps are equal, not by a long shot. Twice, when I was new, I joined corps that weren't very good, and the experience nearly bounced me out of the game.... (frankly, leaving me with a red-hot grudge against ill-conceived, small, disorganized, inexperienced, low-opportunity corps that recruit newbies and subsequently discourage them out of the game.)

Remember that if you're ever bored with Eve, and are struggling to find a reason to log in, that means you need to change things up. Something's not clicking, but it COULD click. Either you need to find new activities, or find a new group to roll with, or a new region of space to live. Whatever you've been doing: There's more to Eve than that.

If you want further help with examples of different things to try, ways to play, roles and niches to fill, just bump this thread and ask.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-12-06 01:33:45 UTC
Things to do in Eve

Start with the Eve Online square in the center and follow the line routes of various career choices available in game.



DMC
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2015-12-06 12:53:27 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:



You seriously never tried this? Just roam around every day and see what's out there? Of course it takes time ...
... and of course it takes experience ... but all it really needs is roaming around being open for everything! :D


Not my best inspirational post, but it serves it's purpose. ^_^

When I was a new player I on occasion had vets private convo me and ask if I wanted to fleet up and loot / salvage their missions and split up the isk. I was not even looking and I found freelance work. I've also been in mining fleets in the distance past. Yes you have to trust someone to take all the ore and cut you in but if they don't you've not really lost much plus if you are in fleet with them and having fun they'll want to maintain the friendship most likely.

Back on topic the point here is that if you are willing to talk to people and invest some minor amount of trust you can find work no problem.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

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