Upcoming Feature and Change Feedback Center

Between this and the new shield/armor effects, I would really love you guys to add in a 'Broadcast Friendly Target' button so us Logi FC's can coordinate reps more effectively.

I'm concerned about how the changes to cap amount will affect alpha neut geddons. Currently a single geddon is able to alpha two guardians cap to zero in a single cycle to try and shut off a cap chain but with these changes this will only be possible using bhaalgorns which lack the range bonus to catch logi.

Well logi is also being forced in closer and the total range of nuets is being extended not to mention the cap cozy of logi mods is gong up

What may be overlooked...

We once fought against chessur and his small gang in a uni blob (on the way back from a poco defense op or something? not entirely sure anymore) anyway they kited us, our tackle tried to catch them, got out of range of logi, got killed, we always tried to warp to them and get reps in, but at the time we landed we were often already close to being out of range again, add to this all the reestablish cap chain hassle, and you get an idea of the stress caused by that.

Now with falloff we would have been able to just rep our tackle compfortably when we were completely out of range before. So we probably wouldn't have lost anyone, yes reps would have been less effective but we were so many...
So this really makes it easier for larger groups not harder (just because eve media spread the word, that those logistics nerfs were about people whinning about them reinforcing n+1, but maybe I missed the point)

The cycle time increases are a good idea though, and I kind of like the idea of falloff although I am concerned about them for the reason I stated above.

I really do think shield has got the shaft.

60km optimals for cruiser logis with armour is so close to current meta it's almost not even a change. So you lose long range repping power for the Oneiros, big deal; Guardian's still going to be pumping out reps to 80km just fine. A 4 x 2 @ 80 is like a 3 x 3 @ 60.

The change to Guardian capacitor pool is also terrible. You can make a solo 5 x 1 fit which is cap stable at 65% with 3 outbound reps and no cap chain. I can't see how that's actually a change for the better. Memcell + CPR's FTW. This means that if you do break a cap chain, it don't matter, Guards still going to rep 100% efficiency @ 60km.

The shield falloff means that Scimis are basically useless unless they go within 30km, which is kinda not the idea with solo logis. At their usual engagement range you get 75% or less efficiency.

I think a great opportunity has been missed to differentiate based more on the racial nature of the logi cruisers, versus the armour/shield distinction.

both armour and shield should have solo logis (Scythe/Exequror and Scimi/oneiros) get the Optimal bonus and 60km efficiency on reps. The chaining logis (Osprey/Augoror and Basi/Guard) should suffer the falloff to rep range because they get the utility of capacitor exchange.

As it stands now, everything except the Guardian and (maybe) Augoror lose out.
Guards get more cap, capacitor exchange, T2 resists, low-sig (ridiculously low, thanks Fozzie), 100K+ EHP fits, 4 large reps 100% efficient to 60km, and capacitor chains efficient to 70km.
Basis are next best, with average capacitor, capacitor exchange 100% efficient to 70km, but they get shield RR falloff beyond 30km, lower EHP, higher sig, sluggish speed, lower cycle times and so on. Still OK.
Oneiros gets 60km range, tetchy cap, mediocre sig (not as dumb as Guards @ 70 or less), solo capacitor pools, relatively slow, but overall not so bad.
Scimis get the shaft here. Crap lock range. Huge sig. 3 Large RRs and suffering falloff unless deep in heavy neut range, unable to fit and run 4 large RRs, crap sensor strength, crap tank which will probably be crapper due to needing to fit a SeBo.

I just can't see this really changing the meta to a meaningful way except to really reinforce Slippery Pete fleets and Cerbs and kiters who don't really rely on RR too much, as being the preferred option. Yes, you will see the addition of falloff for RR affecting the meta, by doing away with viable RR for fast light fleets, and relying instead on cancerous alpha fleets with no realistic large-scale counter (Petes).

The only logi fleets wil be guardian-supported. Nothing has really changed here to make a Guardian's job that much harder, it will jjust mean people will concentrate ever harder on hard-to-alpha hulls like low-sig Legions, bricked Prots etc. Weaker armour hulls (prophs, harbs, BS) will be lost more often due to alpha and cycle times and switching, but not the legion/prot dominated T3 blobs.

overall, a terrible missed opportunity to really drive the dynamic toward solo vs chained logis, versus armour vs Petes.

I used to be interested enough in this game to learn about all this ****. It's getting pretty old relearning most everything again.

mate, just have an overview tab with your fleet mates on it, and sort by distance.

people that have logistics 5 will they get grandfathered in with frigs logistics 5? Will the new cruise logistics have the same SP as the old one?

I really feel the 'scoped' meta modules are somewhat lacking in their range, at least compared to T2. They sit almost midway between T2 and the rest, rather than being closer to the longer T2 range, and combined with almost better everything else, it makes T2 that much more desirable. I think the ranged module should be s bit closer to T2 range to make them a real choice.

I'm still not sure if CCP actually plays all the styles of gameplay that we have available.

They "fixed" blob RR problem (kind of..) but they introduced even more OP tactics for us, empire warriors.

Since we (as in solo station huggers) tend to fight 1vs1 alot, a neutral RR is now even easier to pull off. In 1vs1 fights there only needs to be a small RR available for game to turn around. And with shield RR now orbiting at 70km, where is impossible to catch it, heck, even ECM it, altough with less shield boost in falloff its still mandatory to have neutral RR alt parked somewhere close.

At least frigs are gonna be in heavy neut range, right?! RIGHT?!?!?

And dont tell me about best ship is friendship. I like to play alone, but with every patch there is more struggle for solo pvp. Its either blob or go back to lvl4.