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New player, interested in diplomacy and the politics in Eve.

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Red Ezli
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-12-03 23:16:07 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
Red Ezli wrote:

I think it may be too, joining a newbie corp in a known alliance will be one of my aims over the next couple weeks/months. From there hopefully learn more about the game itself using it as a platform to build knowledge as my platform in preparation for building diplomatic skills.

By no means saying this is wrong or a bad way of going about it, but have you considered joining a smaller, lesser known corp? If you're motivated and charismatic, you could end up taking a group from small and unknown to 'the big time'. To be fair a good newbie corp will make learning the game much easier of course, but the MAIN thing you need to look for in a corp is people you enjoy being around, and who enjoy being around you. If you're looking to get into politics a smaller group may make that a more accessible, albeit difficult goal. Plus, if you grow with a small group, you'll have actual 'loyalty points' to play with as you see fit.

Just food for thought. Best of luck with space politicking, and always remember, internet spaceships are serious business. Blink


To be honest joining a small new corp appeals to me more than joining an established corp in one of the big alliances for several reasons. With a small corp, progression is more visible and there is clear evidence of hard work, hard work can often go unnoticed in the bigger corps. You could probably test your diplomatic skills a lot quicker and earlier in the game with a smaller corp that is continually growing than with a larger corp, however the problem lies with finding the right small corp for me, that also has the desire to grow and make it 'big time' as you say.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#22 - 2015-12-03 23:16:32 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
Red Ezli wrote:

I think it may be too, joining a newbie corp in a known alliance will be one of my aims over the next couple weeks/months. From there hopefully learn more about the game itself using it as a platform to build knowledge as my platform in preparation for building diplomatic skills.

By no means saying this is wrong or a bad way of going about it, but have you considered joining a smaller, lesser known corp? If you're motivated and charismatic, you could end up taking a group from small and unknown to 'the big time'. To be fair a good newbie corp will make learning the game much easier of course, but the MAIN thing you need to look for in a corp is people you enjoy being around, and who enjoy being around you. If you're looking to get into politics a smaller group may make that a more accessible, albeit difficult goal. Plus, if you grow with a small group, you'll have actual 'loyalty points' to play with as you see fit.

Just food for thought. Best of luck with space politicking, and always remember, internet spaceships are serious business. Blink



Usually best IMO to join a newbie friendly corp first. If it's in highsec, make sure they are competent (a good way to check is their war history - if they are getting wardecced and actively resisting, they are usually at least somewhat competent, as are groups that declare wars and kill more than they lose in them). But don't limit your search to highsec - there's various groups like Karmafleet (Goon aligned, nullsec) and the remnants of Brave (someone else can clarify where they are now) and FW and WH corps.

Running a corp effectively requires a lot of experience.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Red Ezli
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-12-04 01:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Ezli
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


Usually best IMO to join a newbie friendly corp first. If it's in highsec, make sure they are competent (a good way to check is their war history - if they are getting wardecced and actively resisting, they are usually at least somewhat competent, as are groups that declare wars and kill more than they lose in them). But don't limit your search to highsec - there's various groups like Karmafleet (Goon aligned, nullsec) and the remnants of Brave (someone else can clarify where they are now) and FW and WH corps.

Running a corp effectively requires a lot of experience.


With time comes experience
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-12-04 02:14:50 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

Usually best IMO to join a newbie friendly corp first. If it's in highsec, make sure they are competent (a good way to check is their war history - if they are getting wardecced and actively resisting, they are usually at least somewhat competent, as are groups that declare wars and kill more than they lose in them). But don't limit your search to highsec - there's various groups like Karmafleet (Goon aligned, nullsec) and the remnants of Brave (someone else can clarify where they are now) and FW and WH corps.

Running a corp effectively requires a lot of experience.


Agreed.

Karmafleet, Pandemic Horde, EVE Uni, and BRAVE (Caldari FW corp now i believe) are the most well known, and largest newbie friendly corps (may have missed some). I think Signal Cartel (Exploration focused) and Sniggwaffe (Pure pvp) also train and mentor new players. They have the kind of organizational savvy, numbers, and infrastructure to be able to help their newbies out immensely. Ship replacement programs, classes, etc... Despite my suggestion earlier, please do understand that this is likely the easiest and most painless way to learn for most people.

My background is smaller groups, it just felt better for me and how I like to learn. If I had joined a huge group like those above, I'm not sure I would have enjoyed the game as much as I have so far. I just wanted to point out small groups are a perfectly valid alternative, that I and quite a few others prefer. It is however riskier (might join a **** corp), so be aware, careful and proactive if you take this route.

Basically you'll need to do a lot of research (pay particular attention to Sabriz' background check suggestions), experiment, and be gutsy. If your first corp doesn't appeal to you, don't hesitate to leave and find a better one.

Grrr.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#25 - 2015-12-04 02:21:51 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:


Basically you'll need to do a lot of research (pay particular attention to Sabriz' background check suggestions), experiment, and be gutsy. If your first corp doesn't appeal to you, don't hesitate to leave and find a better one.



And leave on good terms if that's the reason you are leaving. Just say "Thanks all, wish you all well but I don't fit in because X and I don't want to try to change your culture."

Then if you are infiltrating your actual spy target (or, joining a new corp as a loyal member) they'll probably put in a good word for you.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Red Ezli
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-12-04 03:38:38 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

And leave on good terms if that's the reason you are leaving. Just say "Thanks all, wish you all well but I don't fit in because X and I don't want to try to change your culture."

Then if you are infiltrating your actual spy target (or, joining a new corp as a loyal member) they'll probably put in a good word for you.

Haven't even joined up with one yet and you guys are already giving me advice on leaving! You are meant to give a positive contribution! Ha, but even though that is good advice, generally what I would have done anyway! Roll
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-12-05 00:53:48 UTC
You are likely to either leave your first corp fairly quickly or see it break apart. Only few are lucky enough to find a good community on their first attempt. Especially smaller corps often suffer from too much hubris in their leader.

Other people are at least likely to check your corp history, and maybe even talk to the guys you've flown with in the past. So even if a dispute comes up, leaving on at least somewhat good terms is always a good idea. Corporate theft is a very real danger in Eve, so, some people tend to be careful. If the corp you are joining doesn't run any background checks, chances are, it's not a corp you want to be in.
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