Missions & Complexes

to have CCP's data, now wouldn't that be something. I would love to have the answers to that one.

I'd love to see the price of Faction modules reduced by half or even three quarters. Then players might actually start utilizing them more than they do. It's ridiculous that a Faction BCU or gun costs 50x more than a comparable T2 version.

most of that cost is the tag cost. most people are afraid to "mess up" their standings or whatever excuse. also with more people running SoE missions less are running the faction kill missions for the tags for bcus.

The nerfs being talked about would only impact the people who blitz missions. The people who dont blitz would see no change. Its also worth pointing out the average pilot running anoms in null also isnt maxing out the system. The afktar will net around 45 mil/hr in perfect circumstances and it will die in the not too distant future.

What?!

45mil an hour if you were skilled like a noob maybe.

You literally just told us three pages ago that an ishtar made as much as the 90mil an hour blitz level 3 guys... we literally can pull your own words to prove you are lying.

I like shooting rats.

You very incorrectly said that running the best setup in anoms would net you the same as a lvl3 blitzer in High Sec, which you incorrectly pegged at 100mil an hour.

Then you went on to say that you were in a RHML Raven in HS making 84mil blitzing lvl 3's which would have put you ahead of Stoic's optimal Rail Tengu/Mach numbers.

Then you went on to say you were talking about Vindicators...

So basically, you Fudded your way through several posts, none of which are true and none of which have real numbers.

AFK Ishtar is EASILY 75mil to 85mil per hour in pure bounty plus the odd boost from loot fairy. And because a fully upgraded system now has a minimum of 5 high end anoms, you can run a few in each system you have access to.

I love your attempts to be sly, you just keep lying about everything though.

Another aspect of prejudice is over-estimating what someone else has while simultaneously under-estimating one's own privilege. "High Sec Privilege" needs to be checked. The heart of that privilege is not being able to understand that the practical safety offers by CONCORD is supremely valuable even if it can be overcome in certain ways. It's not unlike real life where people benefiting from affluence don't understand the advantages they have (and thus consider less advantaged people 'lazy' for not doing better...).

75 mil per hour from null anomalies is 25 mil ticks. That's not even physically or mathematically possible from a ship that does dps in the 600 (specific damage type drones) to 700 (Geckos + lighter drones) range. To cross the 20 mil tick barrer with a single ship you need at least 950 dps , the 25 mil barrier is Carrier/marauder/pirate battleship territory and you simply cannot be afk lest your want to make less isk and/or die.

Meanwhile, in "high security space"...

Sure, go ahead.

But understand this, if it were 70 mil, it would still represent an unbalanced situation, because safety (in the form of responding npc police) has a value.

That's what gets lost in talking rewards with people (particularly those who don't recognize their high sec privilages). In the GD discussion about incursions someone mentioned that you can make more from null incursions. In all, a null incursion HQ site pays like 13.5 mil isk more than a high sec one.

Which is why High Sec incursions get farmed by professional communities that formed and null incursions go largely undone. It's why the 10% more LP you get from low sec missions means jack squat also. Because CCP doesn't really understand the value of safety, they don't knwo how to properly scale rewards to be meaningful.

70 mil an hour in high sec blitzing lvl 3s never losing a ship is preferable to 90 mil an hour in null dodging nullified interceptors and hot dropping stealth bombers in null (or 80 mil an hour doing C3s in a wormhole). But buffing null past that 90 mil per hour (in liquid isk) would also be a big mistake as would upping the amount of wealth you can wring from a wormyhole, so the obvious best balance approach is to look at the things that are actually problems (blitzing, high sec incursions, FW missions, the afk-ability of null anoms etc) and cutting some of that down.

Quote that passage of text, you will find that you are talking bullshit.