Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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If you want to wander around talking to people, go play Club Penguin.

Even if these ideas are implemented, the way people actually interact with each other - the chat channels/private convos, TeamSpeak, Skype, etc etc - will still be used without ANY change. All this change would do is introduce more space barbies, something which is utterly anti-Eve.

New players dont join to dress up space barbies. They join to fly ships. Thats the whole point of Eve. I almost quit when I joined up two weeks back, when I first saw the Captains Quarters. My first reaction - wtf is this bullcrap, I thought Eve was about spaceships?

WiS was a massive mistake by CCP, completely un-Eve, hence the vast numbers of players unsubing, hence the dev blog essentially announcing that they have pulled the plug on Incarna - putting a feature "on ice" simply means they are cancelling all work on it, but aren't going to pull whats already been introduced.

It seems WiS has no future in Eve, and I for one am glad.

(Ill stop the quoting, to spare other people the huge posts)

The inherent problem with WiS is that it is so different to the rest of Eve. Its like Football Manager 2013 being released with a feature that let you buy and sell clubs - sure, some people would find it cool, its a change of pace, something different. But it is so different to the rest of the game that it wouldnt fit in. People buy Football Manager to manage football teams, not to buy and sell clubs.

Likewise people play Eve to fly spaceships. PvP, PvE, Miners, even Industrialists and Market Traders haul stuff from time to time. All of that is closely interlinked - you can PvP (as bait) in miners, you can mine in a battleship for lolz, all sorts. But flying ships is the central aspect of Eve.

What you are suggesting is to add in another central aspect of Eve, WiS. You are suggesting to develop it to the point where some players will almost exclusively WiS, rather than flying ships. Using my previous analogy, that is like playing Football Manager but never once, erm, managing a football team. To completely shift the focus of the game away from, well, the game itself.

People have been playing this game for what, 9 years now. Chances are, if they didnt like flying ships, they wouldnt be playing now, would they?

While I don't know too much about Dust 514, I've gathered that the interlinking would be by placing planets accessed in Dust into the Eve systems. There will be features such as orbital bombardments, troop/supply transportation in Eve ships providing intergalactic travel for Dust players, Dust players joining/being alligned with Eve corportations and alliances... in other words, an expansion of the current FiS PI system, with some extras that are related to transportation and haulage.

To me, that seems to fit in with the rest of the game better than having the pilots walk around stations together.

EDIT: I've made a right hash of explaining how Dust and Eve would interlink, but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

You're trying to say you don't like it, and it's a valid opinion.

However, how being in station and gambling with others face to face for example doesn't fit? CCP isn't gonna turn the game into a dating sim anyway, so your "space barbie" argument is moot.

All that's needed is that entering a station is optional so you and others who don't like it can stay away from it. Same is with mining, if nobody forces you to shoot rocks, how that changes your game?

Much anger in this one.... o.0

All I want out of incarna is the ability to find that red market alt in our station, kick down his captain's quarters door, and shoot him directly in the face.

CCP if you let me do this then I promise I'll spend 2 weeks training Advanced Banjo Interfacing to level 5.


Yeah but they are not going to spend that development on us. Look at how little went into eve during the Incarna update, and how much got added to eve after the Jita riots and the short lead up time to Crucible. When CCP works on the space dollhouse eve stagnates, when CCP focuses on actual internet space ships we get more updates to eve in two months than we have seen in an entire year.

FYP.

I dunno if you read this dev blog, but the title was a joke based off the fact that CCP told us they weren't touching FiS for 18 months whilst they got Incarna ready.

You're probably too young to have been around for the initial announcements ... but it irked those of us who were...

That's a hell of a statement coming from someone who joined just 2 weeks ago. May I hazard a guess that you are full of ****, and really got permabanned, and now want to hide the fact that you were here before.

If you want to hide that, maybe you should stop posting, or just try to avoid opinions that are more appropriate to 5+ year veterans of the game.

Maybe you're just trying to be like the cool kids though; hell, I don't know.

edit: I might mention, I am really not interested in having crooners in the halls wailing out their best lyrics, and thinking they're actually good. It'd be like Justin Bieber all over again; only you couldn't shut it off, and were forced to run back to your ship and go gank somebody.

Okay, maybe not that bad. Really though, I'd rather not listen if I don't have to.

post-edit: Also, wasting skill training time on something like the banjo is starting to get a bit carried away. If you had it set up so you had 5 levels of talent, with like 50 SP required for 1, and a 2x multiplier...maybe.

I'd train small arms, fencing, and martial arts just for the fun of it; and maybe classical literature, and architectural design. Just for the RP aspect of a more fulfilling character background.

What? EVE characters have no backgrounds? They didn't exist before they were a pod clone? Actually, they did; but that's what the Bio is for. Not that you can put much more than 2 sentences in there.

Do I seem bitter? Maybe that's just because I see guys with lengthy 400 word bios, and I can't put in 3 lines of text without mine running out of characters.