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If you would like to make killmarks for PvE, than the only kind worthy of such killmark would be a named NPC officer spawn.

We did consider this, and we like the idea too. The result was that that additional complexity would have required additional time to implement that we simply do not have at this point, with all the other features coming up. It's always possible this might be revisited in the future, but probably not soon.


The primary difference between "Medium" and "High" shader settings is the dirt feature. If you set your shader quality to "Medium," you will have a permanently-clean ship, and few (if any) other visual differences.

Is gathering dirt stops at some point? How fast will it be? I have 2 years tengu and I wonder how will it look like?


I wouldn't mind overseers kills on my stratios hull. They are not so common and don't spawn every time.

Do the killmarks accumulate per ship, ship type or character? I.e. my ship gets blown up and I buy a new one, will it have the same amount of marks?

Dirt accumulation never stops, but it does asymptotically approach a limit over long periods of time. The difference in look between one and two years is distinct, but between two and ten years it's pretty subtle.

Also, note that all ships have been reset to a clean state to start, and the accumulation of dirt begins the first time you sit in a given ship. In the future, ships you assemble but don't sit in will not accumulate dirt until you enter the ship, at least in your hangar.

So here is interesting twist: a single repackaged item (a ship in this example) that is than assembled again, as long as the newly created stack of 1 items was not merged with another (so assembing from 1 item stack) produce item with the same item id as the irem that was repackaged - will it also remove killmarks in this scenario?

So my ships look shiny and new even though I've owned them for years now?! VERY disappointing!! Moreover, am I reading this right? In order for my ships to start accruing dirt, I have to go around and sit in them once on the 8th to get the process started?? If I have a ship in a remote corner of New Eden it will keep looking brand new unless I sit in it?

I've been playing Eve for years and I expected that would show in my ships. Turns out my ships will look the same than those from a week old account!

Great feature, poor execution.

Those are wonderful features!
I assume that a ship will keep its killmarks when sold on contract, making way for emerging price differentiations (and scam possibilities).

But now that this is possible, it makes me lament that other thing which is not possible: shipbuilder's name on every ship in New Eden! I know it is not possible because ships are stackable regardless of maker, I just wish there was a way around it.
One option would be to add the name or intitials of the person that assembles a ship, but that person would rarely be the actual shipbuilder, and most ships will be repackaged for each resale anyhows :(

I like to see the ships turning really dirty I still think they are to clean after long periods.

You can skip the first part that is only idle rambling and continue reading after the horizontal line.



I am seriously glad that you added the option to "clean ship" as a simple button press without any extra cost associated to it. But I still want to voice my opinion about your dirtyfication.

First, could we please get an option in the settings that says "auto-clean every time you dock" ? Because that would make sense, you know? If I am docking, I expect the station personnel to take care of my ship. The ship is being resupplied with all kinds of stuff and [insert other elaborate plausible reasons]. I like my housekeeping.

Even aside that, honestly, I don't quite understand why a ship should accumulate dirt over time at all. I mean, first there has to be dirt (space dust) around to begin with. Our ships don't fly on planets, and we also don't have a lot of material floating around in hard vacuum.
So if someone is not flying through dust clouds in missions or along asteroid belts, I question the availability of "space dust" anywhere else.

But hey, let's pretend we are doing plenty of mission running and/or mining in the same ship.
Don't we have, like, shields? And how about anti-adhesive coatings? Because I'm pretty sure it is an imperative to keep the ship hull clean because REASONS. In current existing technology, and even in nature, "self-cleaning" surfaces are a thing.

Sure, people will say "just press the stupid button". And again, I will voice my appreciation that the button EXISTS and it is not an artistic thing that is shoved down our throats. But I still would like to see an option that says "auto-clean ship in station". I do not want that extra click to be needed. I am a capsuleer. I have personnel for that kind of stuff.

Finally, I also hope the dirt does not accumulate over time but instead of time UNDOCKED.
If I undock after sitting in station for several days, and my ship is butt-ugly brown, I'll be laughing hysterically. *hint hint clean in station option hint hint*



But let me try to warn you before you go to far in your future vision: If you plan to add Battlescars to the hull, please be very VERY careful about that.

I don't want to see a shield tanked ship that never gets a hit on armor to suddenly receive one battle scar after the other on the hull.
I do not want to see my ship littered with battlescars if I armor tank, but never go into hull, and always dock with full armor.

Battlescars should be something that are a reminder of situations when things got really heavy. You managed to get out with low hull and repair up? That should be eligible for a battlescar. But even those should be able to be removed completely with an option. Hull damage is serious business. We're talking about breaches, explosions inside, whatever.

Sure, you can question now how that could be "exploited" but the kill counter can be "exploited" in the same way. So what? It only matters what is in your own memories and those of the pilots who flew with you on all those days.


I want to believe this is going to happen in the future. Kill marks and stuff are only the first steps. I'm sure there is a way to retain builder's notice even if the ship is repackaged, and stacks would maybe receive an internal note about which ship was built by whom in the stack or something.
I also look forward to a "who has flown this ship" list which might not live through repackaging, but that's fine honestly.

Edit:
in fact, retaining builder's note could even be possible as of now. Think about containers. What is a container? It holds items. If we start to think about a stack of ships as a container that cannot be opened but shows the number of the type of items on the outside (only one type in this case) then we should be good to go.
if builder's tag ever happens, I'd like to see a difference between personal (pilot name) or corporation (corp name if built with corp funds)

Edit 2:


You have the standings history of the faction. Right click -> Transactions. I don't know how reliable that is, but if named ships or something take more faction standing impact than non-named ships, then you could apply a kill counter for a certain threshold of unmodified standing change.
Alternatively, can't you just add a "tag" to these ships? I mean, aren't those ships eligible to drop faction and officer loot anyway? Doesn't that mean that you have a way to sort them by "loot" ? So in this case, add a killmark if it has a chance to drop something? I don't know, just throwing out ideas.
but in the case of doubt, add a new category in your database maybe that all "named ships" are part of. Horray important killcounters.