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WHY ARE THESE SO FAST!?
What is wrong with you people?

Ease off on the bloody speed creep.
There is no reason for these to be FASTER than AFs when they can already do 100km in 8 seconds.

You have classes dedicated to light and heavy tackling, and you want to make a Destroyer class faster than them.
Did we learn nothing from Angels, and the current cancer of T3Ds and Mordus?

AND you're adding T2 frig logi
Maybe you guys should log in for once before you start shitting out ideas.

Here's a better idea: Let's just remove frigates from the game. Sound good?
It means far less work for you toilet jockeys

WHY ARE THESE SO FAST!?
What is wrong with you people?

Ease off on the bloody speed creep.
There is no reason for these to be FASTER than AFs when they can already do 100km in 8 seconds.

You have classes dedicated to light and heavy tackling, and you want to make a Destroyer class faster than them.
Did we learn nothing from Angels, and the current cancer of T3Ds and Mordus?

AND you're adding T2 frig logi
Maybe you guys should log in for once before you start shitting out ideas.

Here's a better idea: Let's just remove frigates from the game. Sound good?
It means far less work for you toilet jockeys

I can't help but wonder if you're being sarcastic, since you of all people would be able to grasp the concept of such blatant powercreep, if you have to outright delete old and invalidated classes.

That's my point.

It shouldn't matter. There should be enough distinctions between the classes by themselves, so that we don't have to make T2 destroyers that are faster than frigates but tank like cruisers.

It's really rather ridiculous that we're even having this conversation. It's simple game balance, after all, if you're going to release something that invalidates a bunch of previously existing stuff, then the release should simply not happen. This has nothing to do with "moving forward" or "progress" or whatever justification you want to use.

It's power creep. Of the worst kind, too, speed. The two biggest pitfalls in game balance are always the same. Stealth, and speed. If they are out of balance, the game is broken. CCP has done a reasonably good job with stealth, but they have not done a good job of managing speed.

I can't help but wonder if you're being sarcastic, since you of all people would be able to grasp the concept of such blatant powercreep, if you have to outright delete old and invalidated classes.

Here is a feedback thread for some awesome new ships, Command Destroyers!

So here's the basics. We are adding a new line of Tech II destroyers based on the Algos, Dragoon, Corax and Talwar along with a new type of module called the Micro Jump Field Generator, which the new Destroyers will have exclusive access to. I'm going to go through some basic questions here at the top and then give you all the details after.

First, why Command Destroyers? We have always wanted to do a line of smaller ships that could provide gang support, but we expected to wait until after a rework of the ganglink mechanics, but here we saw a perfect opportunity to bring you this awesome new module and combining the role with gang support seems ideal. We still want to rework links and think these will slot in perfectly to that rework when it happens, but in the mean time you guys get a few awesome new tools.

Second, how exactly does the Micro Jump Field Generator work? This module is exactly like a Micro Jump Drive except that when it fires, it pulls any ships nearby along with it for the jump. There's a lot of specifics to consider here but the big restrictions you need to know are that you cannot use this module in high sec, you can not pull invulnerable targets (ships that have just undocked or just jumped through a gate and are still cloaked), you can not move capitals, and you can not jump into starbase shields. You CAN however do a lot of really crazy thing such as pull bombs that are midair, pull dictor bubbles or chain multiple jumps in a row using several Command Destroyers. As for numbers, we have a base spool up time of 9 seconds, a reactivation delay of 160 seconds, a pull radius of 6km from the ship and a jump distance of 100km. The module requires 5 PG and 31 CPU to fit and requires the same skill as normal MJDs to use.

Now, for the ships themselves. We are aiming to have a set of destroyers that are both faster and more resilient than either their Tech I counterparts or Interdictors, but sacrifice offense. This should make the support role, whether with MJFG or links, easier to fill while leaving them vulnerable to abuse in combat. Their weapon systems will be missile or drone based, like their base hulls.



And for their attributes I'm using a google doc this time for better readability: ATTRIBUTES

As always, we look forward to your feedback. With these ships I'm especially interested in any opinions or insights on the powergrid and CPU numbers, as the ships will probably get used a few different ways and I'm not positive we've accounted for all of them.

If you have any questions or need clarifications please ask, and don't be surprised if there's a typo here and there that needs fixing :)

Thanks !