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windows vista
The society of bitter vets
#1 - 2015-11-14 02:27:06 UTC
So how many devs/people/gm/isd/csm have been playing fallout 4?

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Nerath Naaris
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#2 - 2015-11-14 19:55:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
windows vista wrote:
So how many devs/people/gm/isd/csm have been playing fallout 4?

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Fallout 4 got pretty wrecked on Metacritic, initially 4,7, now 5,0.

And while caution is always advised taking advice from strangers, this is too awful a rating to simply blame it on trolls and haters and v/ and whatever. Mind you, The Witcher 3, which was certainly as hyped as FO4 never got any flak on metacritic at all; so much for the "troll" and "hater" argument....
That said, I do hear bad things about the controls (PC), terrible bugs (ok, New Vegas had the same issues and is widely regarded as awesome nowadays), inane railroading into a flat, boring story that is too similar to FO3 by trying to make you care about a "family" which you meet for some 2 minutes total, dumb go-there-kill-this sidequests, removal of all RPG elements in what is supposed to be a RPGame, casualitis, handholding, etc., etc.....

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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#3 - 2015-11-14 23:58:10 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
windows vista wrote:
So how many devs/people/gm/isd/csm have been playing fallout 4?

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Fallout 4 got pretty wrecked on Metacritic, initially 4,7, now 5,0.

And while caution is always advised taking advice from strangers, this is too awful a rating to simply blame it on trolls and haters and v/ and whatever. Mind you, The Witcher 3, which was certainly as hyped as FO4 never got any flak on metacritic at all; so much for the "troll" and "hater" argument....
That said, I do hear bad things about the controls (PC), terrible bugs (ok, New Vegas had the same issues and is widely regarded as awesome nowadays), inane railroading into a flat, boring story that is too similar to FO3 by trying to make you care about a "family" which you meet for some 2 minutes total, dumb go-there-kill-this sidequests, removal of all RPG elements in what is supposed to be a RPGame, casualitis, handholding, etc., etc.....


Sod metacritic and all the aggregation sites in all honesty, they are way too vulnerable to vote trolling and people giving bad rating for trivial complaints.

Having already put about 50 hours into it most of that list is complete and utter **** tbh. the only complaints there I think have some merit are the control scheme and the storyline.

Yes the controls feel like they were optimised for console players and yes the story is nowhere near as open ended as previous fallout games. However the combat is much improved, particularly with things like insects and feral ghouls, and the need to find parts for building and modding stuff has lead me to a ton of places I might otherwise not have found. Im also not sure where they got that 'removed all the rpg bits' claim as barring some simplification of the perk tree its identical to FO3 and NV. As for the bug complaint if you bought a fallout game at release and didnt expect bugs then you're either hopelessly naive or ******* stupid, if its that important to you then wait for the patch othewise just deal with it like the rest of us.

Just to be clear Nerath that's not directed at you specifically.

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Omar Alharazaad
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#4 - 2015-11-17 01:14:42 UTC
Playing on console here, when I can. RL is doing it's best to keep that from happening, but at least I got a good binge session in this weekend.
So far so good. Loved 3, loved NV, and this one is playing out to be better than either of them.
Unfortunately I had just recently gotten to the point of not stopping to pick up every blasted snowberry I saw in Skyrim, and now all that hard work is undone. With everything in the game having some use I keep getting overloaded with insane quickness.
Eh. That's on me though.

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#5 - 2015-11-21 20:24:42 UTC
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#6 - 2015-11-27 04:17:14 UTC
Most of my corp is missing because of this ._.

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#7 - 2015-11-27 13:19:16 UTC
It's awesome and basically all I play when I play anything since it came out.

I don't know who is experiencing all these bugs in the game but it certainly isn't me. Not so much as a single CTD. I know! Wtf Bethesda?? My theory on critic sites is basically...who is more likely to go post a review? Someone with a bone to pick. Someone who's experience was less than they hoped. Some malcontent, bitterdick that can't stomach change. Eve players more than likely.

The other 11 million or so people are too busy enjoying it to give a damn about writing a review.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#8 - 2015-11-27 16:46:44 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
It's awesome and basically all I play when I play anything since it came out.

I don't know who is experiencing all these bugs in the game but it certainly isn't me. Not so much as a single CTD. I know! Wtf Bethesda?? My theory on critic sites is basically...who is more likely to go post a review? Someone with a bone to pick. Someone who's experience was less than they hoped. Some malcontent, bitterdick that can't stomach change. Eve players more than likely.

The other 11 million or so people are too busy enjoying it to give a damn about writing a review.



Finish the game, though, and tell me you weren't at least a teeny-weeny bit disappointed with how things were wrapped up Cry

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#9 - 2015-11-27 18:13:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Eurydia Vespasian
Bumblefck wrote:
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
It's awesome and basically all I play when I play anything since it came out.

I don't know who is experiencing all these bugs in the game but it certainly isn't me. Not so much as a single CTD. I know! Wtf Bethesda?? My theory on critic sites is basically...who is more likely to go post a review? Someone with a bone to pick. Someone who's experience was less than they hoped. Some malcontent, bitterdick that can't stomach change. Eve players more than likely.

The other 11 million or so people are too busy enjoying it to give a damn about writing a review.



Finish the game, though, and tell me you weren't at least a teeny-weeny bit disappointed with how things were wrapped up Cry


I didn't think it was too bad. The path that I took the journey was all the fun with twists and such. The end was just the end. No better or worse than any other Bethesda game. At least they made it so you can continue with some level of purpose after the conclusion. I have no complaints.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#10 - 2015-11-28 04:57:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
It's a good game but it's missing out on what Fallout was/should be (imo). It's now basically a slightly less linear Mass Effect (with equally terrible and similar, per "choice", endings), there's little options to create your own character traits or actions because it's all governed by the silly straightforward dialogue options and lack of a karma/reputation system. Also you can't really create silly builds anymore.

It's all very much "stream lined" which is another word for "dumbed down for the console clowns". I'm pretty much waiting for the modders to add these kind of options and give us an "alternative start" mod like in Skyrim.
Kaarous Aldurald
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#11 - 2015-11-28 14:02:47 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:

Fallout 4 got pretty wrecked on Metacritic, initially 4,7, now 5,0.


Lol, metacritic.

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Samira Kernher
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#12 - 2015-11-28 14:47:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Played about 90 hours already. :) I really liked the main story, and it's fun to just wander.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2015-11-28 15:05:33 UTC
fyi if you do the muinet man missions you can effectively enslave the local population into operating an obscene amount of artillery for you,
help enough people and set up the supply lines and you can have artillery on call olmost every where on the map.

these are the "good guys" lol

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#14 - 2015-11-29 01:20:34 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
fyi if you do the muinet man missions you can effectively enslave the local population into operating an obscene amount of artillery for you,
help enough people and set up the supply lines and you can have artillery on call olmost every where on the map.

these are the "good guys" lol


Yeah, people keep saying the Minutemen are weak and useless. I'm like "have you SEEN that arty?".
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#15 - 2015-11-29 14:52:16 UTC
Gonna wait for it to drop in price like i did with Witcher bought it for 30 bucks all 3 games spent weekend playing Witcher 3 it is very good even for replay ability.

Watched angry Joe review of Fallout and few others just to see is it maybe worth 60$ wasn't wow'd,graphic is bad nothing more to say there something about console port, as well as story that isnt all that good.

Definitely gonna wait it out i don't think ima gonna be that starved for something to play to fork out 60ti for it atm.

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#16 - 2015-11-30 04:25:49 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Gonna wait for it to drop in price like i did with Witcher bought it for 30 bucks all 3 games spent weekend playing Witcher 3 it is very good even for replay ability.

Watched angry Joe review of Fallout and few others just to see is it maybe worth 60$ wasn't wow'd,graphic is bad nothing more to say there something about console port, as well as story that isnt all that good.

Definitely gonna wait it out i don't think ima gonna be that starved for something to play to fork out 60ti for it atm.


Not only that but by that time modders will have the tools to massively improve on the game, that way you won't spoil it by "having to" play the standard game.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#17 - 2015-11-30 08:34:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Gregor Parud wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Gonna wait for it to drop in price like i did with Witcher bought it for 30 bucks all 3 games spent weekend playing Witcher 3 it is very good even for replay ability.

Watched angry Joe review of Fallout and few others just to see is it maybe worth 60$ wasn't wow'd,graphic is bad nothing more to say there something about console port, as well as story that isnt all that good.

Definitely gonna wait it out i don't think ima gonna be that starved for something to play to fork out 60ti for it atm.


Not only that but by that time modders will have the tools to massively improve on the game, that way you won't spoil it by "having to" play the standard game.

Check the nexus, there's already hundreds of them.

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#18 - 2015-11-30 11:33:50 UTC
Yeah but those are just retextures and toying with stats, for the most part. They can't really dissect the game and change stuff till the creation kit is released.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#19 - 2015-11-30 16:24:02 UTC
I just don't get where people are saying the graphics are bad? Are they blind? It looks great. Some of the most realistic environment effects I've ever seen on an unmodded game. It's gorgeous...for a wasteland lol
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#20 - 2015-11-30 17:03:03 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
I just don't get where people are saying the graphics are bad? Are they blind? It looks great. Some of the most realistic environment effects I've ever seen on an unmodded game. It's gorgeous...for a wasteland lol



I think most of the complaints are coming from the fact that the engine the game uses is essentially the same as the one used for Fallout 3 / NV (I believe)

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