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Vale Everin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-01-06 23:15:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vale Everin
I have a quick question for someone who knows more about contracts and the market than I do:

I have two alts sitting in two different regions, who are members of the same alt corp. What I want to do is be able to buy in one system, move the items via courier contract to my other alt's system and sell them there. Is there a way to do that, and still have the items that one alt bought be accessible/sellable to the other alt after I get them moved?

Thanks in advance, tried to find info on this but came up empty from guides and whatnot.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-06 23:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
There is absolutely no way to "teleport" items from one station to another. You either have to haul them yourself, or issue a courier contract for someone else to do so.
Caractacus Dio
Inception Innovations
#3 - 2012-01-07 00:29:09 UTC
The items have to be physically moved as mentioned.

If you want items to be visible by all alts in a single corporation. You can rent corp hangars in those systems, but this obviously involves paying monthly rental fees - not advisable in systems like Jita. However, if you were to purchase things using a corp wallet in Jita, then they would be visible to corp members (with correct roles) in the Deliveries area.
Vale Everin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-01-07 00:43:36 UTC
Sorry, I was unclear with my question! =/
I know they have to move physically, my plan was to buy with alt A, put out a COURIER CONTRACT to have them moved to alt B's location, and sell with alt B. What I'm wondering is if, since it wasn't alt A who did the moving, is there a way to get alt B access to the items to sell once they're there?
I suspect that there's a way I can do that since they're both my alts and in the same alt-corp, I just don't know how to go about 'giving' the items from one alt to the other.
Olivia Apex
Off-World Conglomerate
#5 - 2012-01-07 00:45:37 UTC
Vale Everin wrote:
I have a quick question for someone who knows more about contracts and the market than I do:

I have two alts sitting in two different regions, who are members of the same alt corp. What I want to do is be able to buy in one system, contract the items over to my other alt's system and sell them there. Is there a way to do that, and still have the items that one alt bought be accessible/sellable to the other alt after I contract them over?

Thanks in advance, tried to find info on this but came up empty from guides and whatnot.


No you have to move them. Look into courier contracts to do that, they are dirt cheap, just be sure the collateral covers the cost of the item being shipped.

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Onlyasandwich
NewsRadio
#6 - 2012-01-07 01:42:25 UTC
You only need one character to do this if the items you are selling normally go through the contract system, even if you operate over several regions. It works just as well with more characters, of course, if you need more contract slots.

I'm assuming you plan on putting these in market orders, which would require the extra characters.

Corporate offices simplify the process, but you can use the corporate deliveries bay as long as you do it right. Any item in a corp delivery bay is accessible to anyone in corp with correct roles. Simply create a courier contract on behalf of the corporation, and the item will arrive in the corp delivery bay at the destination, where the second character can easily retrieve and sell it without further hassle. No need to fool with personal contracts and all that jazz.

The contract system is a great way to extend your trade presence to hubs you don't keep a regular market presence in. Although you must be in the same region to accept a contract, you can create a BO contract remotely in any region in EVE, provided you have at least one item in hangar there. This rule applies to corporate contracting as well, and both the delivery bay and corp hangars count.

If you feel like working the contract market in Amarr but don't want to camp an alt there, simply hustle over yourself and drop off a unit of ammo or something, or make a cheap courier to drop something in hangar. You can now set a buy or sell contract for any item you want in Amarr, no matter where you are.

I don't know why they place this "item in the hangar" limitation on where you can set buy contracts. Perhaps it is just a limitation of the UI, perhaps an intentional bit of market esoteria.

If I am an idiot and there is a way to set a buy contract out of region without an item in the desired location, please let me know!
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-01-07 01:47:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
Vale Everin wrote:
Sorry, I was unclear with my question! =/
I know they have to move physically, my plan was to buy with alt A, put out a COURIER CONTRACT to have them moved to alt B's location, and sell with alt B. What I'm wondering is if, since it wasn't alt A who did the moving, is there a way to get alt B access to the items to sell once they're there?
I suspect that there's a way I can do that since they're both my alts and in the same alt-corp, I just don't know how to go about 'giving' the items from one alt to the other.


I think you're looking for this:

Character A buys items.
Character A issues a public courier contract.
Character Z (unrelated to you) picks up and delivers the courier.
Items get back to character A's hangar.
A creates a private item exchange contract with the items to B.
B accepts the contract and gets the items in his hangar.
B sells the items.

Alternatively, you can do:

A buys items.
A contracts the items to B via a private contract.
B issues a public courier contract.
Z completes the contract.
B receives the items at the destination station.
B sells items.

Neither even requires the two characters to be in the same corporation.


I am only guessing that you're asking about accepting contracts in another region? You can only accept public contracts in the region you are in, but you can always accept private contracts anywhere.
Vale Everin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-01-07 02:58:19 UTC
Thanks, that's just what I was looking for...and gives me some lovely new ideas for expanding my fledgeling mercantile empire. Idea
Dersk
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-07 03:27:37 UTC
Post the courier contract on behalf of your corporation... the small box at the bottom of the first contract window. When it arrives at the destination it'll be in the deliveries bay, accessible to any corporation member with appropriate roles.

You have to create a 2nd contract if the courier isn't on behalf of your corporation.
Bath Sheeba
Another Success Story
#10 - 2012-01-07 06:39:17 UTC
Dersk wrote:
Post the courier contract on behalf of your corporation... the small box at the bottom of the first contract window. When it arrives at the destination it'll be in the deliveries bay, accessible to any corporation member with appropriate roles.

You have to create a 2nd contract if the courier isn't on behalf of your corporation.



This is exactly how I move stuffs around. In addition you do NOT need to rent an office to do this.
malaire
#11 - 2012-01-07 08:00:27 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Alternatively, you can do:

A buys items.
A contracts the items to B via a private contract.
B issues a public courier contract.
Z completes the contract.
B receives the items at the destination station.
B sells items.

This is what I do, except I use private corporate contract in "A contracts the items to B via a private contract." because that is easier to make and accept. (Private personal contract is not visible in My Contracts tab of B for some reason so B would need to use Contract Search to find and accept it.)

Dersk wrote:
Post the courier contract on behalf of your corporation... the small box at the bottom of the first contract window. When it arrives at the destination it'll be in the deliveries bay, accessible to any corporation member with appropriate roles..

That doesn't seem to be possible when item in question is in your personal hangar. I tried to right click an item and make courier contract on behalf of my corporation, but then it asks me to select division and station where item is, and there is nothing there.

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Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#12 - 2012-01-07 11:02:35 UTC
Vale Everin wrote:
I have a quick question for someone who knows more about contracts and the market than I do:

I have two alts sitting in two different regions, who are members of the same alt corp. What I want to do is be able to buy in one system, move the items via courier contract to my other alt's system and sell them there. Is there a way to do that, and still have the items that one alt bought be accessible/sellable to the other alt after I get them moved?

Thanks in advance, tried to find info on this but came up empty from guides and whatnot.


If you have Corporate offices in departure station you can set-up a corp contract and it will be delivered to the Corp deliver locker and be accessible by any Character with the correct access rights.
Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-01-07 12:53:17 UTC
items in personal hangar: create contract to your corp, accept then deliver - will appear in deliveries.

items in deliveries: create contract on behalf of corp to alt, accept and deliver - will appear in deliveries.

both ways drop items in deliveries leaving them accesible to both alts.


nb. this assumes you are doing the courier work yourself, for anything else see posts above.
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Dersk
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-01-07 23:30:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Dersk
edit: previous poster already explained my omission