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Looking for ISK loan to start business

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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#1 - 2012-01-07 22:01:40 UTC  |  Edited by: metalravenous
Hello, I am writing in the forums to get a loan to start a small EVE based business. Essentially my idea is to start a web cam business where people can watch me me play Eve 24/7. I need the loan to set up web hosting and use the isk to buy plex while I use my allowance to buy web cams. My computer is in my bedroom so pretty much when I am not playing people can also watch me sleep (I don't mind).

I think this will be an awesome venture because I play Eve all the time and like to PVP and mine so people will be able to see how you actually play the game and might learn somethings. I don't know exactly how big the market will be for this sort of thing but there is always an influx of new players. Also I would like to point out the large following on Youtube of EVE related videos.

I have friends who work for a web hosting company do programming and have offered to help me out. I have spoke to them and they feel that the best way to go about this sort of venture if to have people deposit ISK into an account and use scripts to monitor deposits and usage. We haven't really decided on what a good going rate on this would be but we are thinking 50 million for an hour. Not every one is probably going to watch me play all the time and they want to come back later so this way here they can save time. Also we were thinking that there might be ways we can offer people special deals if they buy bulk amounts of time.

My cost break down is as follows.

I have estimates for web cam hosting ranging from 1 billion to 10 billion a month depending on the amount of web traffic used and also if I allow ads on the site. Other factors include how many cameras I have set up.
I estimate a basic web camera wil run at least 1 plex or about 460 million.

I have a friend who is going to work on some programming to have people set up account and track account balances. He estimates that this should take about 10 hours worth of work as he will use some existing code. He wants 3 billion isk for this. He also wants 1 plex a month for site maintenance.

In all I am looking for 25 billion to cover start up costs and potential over runs over the course of the first two months.

Profit

Eve has about 25,000 people on all the time except when there is downtime. There are usually at least 1,000 people in Jita at all times. We figure if we do some advertising in Jita during peak time like what some of the big lotteries do that we can get at least 10 people a day (possibly more on the weekend) to suscribe or take a look. From experience my one friend says that inthese types of rooms there are usually about 10-25 guys on at all times. We think a fair goal is to have 50 regular suscribers and about 10 hardcore viewers. With 10 viewers this will generate 500 mil an hour or 12 billion a day minimum. I am also thinking that we can offer special promotions where my sister will come in and use my computer when I am not there. I can let viewers know via web site and they may want to suscribe just to watch her.
The ISK loan will be paid back at 100% rate as soon as I make the first 50 billion. Depending on the success of this venturethis coul potentially be in days.

I don't think my numbers are all that far off and I am open to suggestions. Basically I like playing EVE and want to share my expriences with other and make ISK while doing it. Thank you.

If people decide to invest I ask that you please post in this thread so that It is easy to keep track of who sent what. Once isk is received I will confirm it. Thank you. And please feel free to convo me in game.
Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#2 - 2012-01-07 22:16:37 UTC
How are you funding a web cam host with ISK? How are you going to receive revenue in ISK? What is the name of web cam host you plan to use?

Most importantly: How will advertising generate you ISK?

Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX

metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#3 - 2012-01-07 22:23:40 UTC
My friend works for the hosting company and has said he will take ISK in exchange for the web hosting. The advertising on the site wouldn't generate ISK revenue but would generate RL money ( I am not keen on this).

Revenue stream would be from EVE players who want to watch. They would deposit ISK in an account. They would then be charge to watch on a per minute basis.

I am not really comfortable providing the business my friend works at just because of privacy reasons on his part.
Siigari Kitawa
New Eden Archery Club
#4 - 2012-01-07 22:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Siigari Kitawa
So it's a paid stream?

Err.


edit: Good luck, if you can pull any of this off that'd be interesting. However, you should attempt to generate real life revenue and then refold it back into GTCs or PLEX. May be more profitable, and not as demanding on the customers. I imagine there are very few people who will pay to watch somebody else play Eve when they already pay to play the game themselves.

Double edit: I sense a bit of sarcasm in the OP, so if you want to take this seriously at all, cool. If not, whatevs.

Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX

Brock Nelson
#5 - 2012-01-07 22:27:59 UTC
Would you offer private sessions?

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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#6 - 2012-01-07 22:29:12 UTC  |  Edited by: metalravenous
Yes, people are paying ISK to watch me play EVE.

I have to remember to quote....
David Forge
GameOn Inc.
#7 - 2012-01-07 22:30:38 UTC
Don't be dirty.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#8 - 2012-01-07 22:31:36 UTC
I thought about that because I figured that some people might want to be walked through on how I fit ships or mine or whatever. I don't really know because I don't really have a good idea on what the demand on this sort of thing will be. The problem by doing that is that others will have potentially already paid and I don't think it would be fair or good customer service to not be available for them to watch.
Brock Nelson
#9 - 2012-01-07 22:33:04 UTC
Ha

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Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-01-07 23:48:03 UTC
ISK sent
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#11 - 2012-01-08 00:02:36 UTC
Hi, you didn't actually send any ISK so please don't say you did. I would kindly ask CCP MOD to verify this. Thank you.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#12 - 2012-01-08 00:04:38 UTC
Hi Everyone,

I have had some responses and I want to say no I am not pimping my sister she is 14 for crying out loud. She just uses my computer to do homework and play games. Please keep it clean. Thanks.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-01-08 00:12:09 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
Hi, you didn't actually send any ISK so please don't say you did. I would kindly ask CCP MOD to verify this. Thank you.


This man just stole my ISK. I would kindly ask CCP MOD to verify this. Thank you.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#14 - 2012-01-08 00:14:15 UTC
Please just ignore him. Obvious troll is trolling.
cigarellos
#15 - 2012-01-08 00:14:50 UTC
Reported.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-01-08 00:17:34 UTC
cigarellos wrote:
Reported.


This man just stole my ISK. I would kindly ask CCP MOD to verify this. Thank you.
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
#17 - 2012-01-08 00:32:45 UTC
Cool IDEA ! ISK Sent !
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#18 - 2012-01-08 00:35:26 UTC
Confirming Keen Fallsword sent ISK. Thank you.
Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#19 - 2012-01-08 02:59:38 UTC
Ok this seems wierd to me.

For an eve player this would be like visiting a strip club with a pre payed prostitute at home with the meeter running.

I can only assume that current players are not your target audience but non eve adicts who may just get a trial and be done with it.

I cannot see this as ever turning a profit
Brock Nelson
#20 - 2012-01-08 03:26:48 UTC
Pics?

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