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This brain in a box patch and it's impact IMO

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Revenant Kane
Cannibal Empire
BLACKFLAG.
#21 - 2015-11-25 12:30:29 UTC
ugh... some people here are starting to sound like users.

Endless problems but never bother to log call when the problem occurs.
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#22 - 2015-11-25 12:45:47 UTC
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
What was/were the bug report(s) numbers?
EBR-50744 was the most recent one made on 10.12.2015
Fix is pending deployment on 8 Dec.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2015-11-25 12:48:47 UTC
Kal'Han wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?
ps. naglfars are still making siege sounds every minute even tho bug reports were made 3 months ago.
What was/were the bug report(s) numbers?
you should spend a bit more time in "Issue" forum than in "general", I keep redirecting players to the ticket system, should I tell them to the "bug report" in game instead? (booster not applying, pos gun stuck on ship and needing dock redock to fix, and other issuer, but that was just yesterday.)
Depends; one off issues should be filed as Support Tickets for Customer Support, but repeatable/reproducible issues as Bug Reports for Development.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#24 - 2015-11-25 12:59:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Aralieus
Ever heard of growing pains? Well sometimes in the digital world of programming they tend to occur however once its all said and done and polished and pretty you'll be thankful they chose the path they did. I went on the test server Singularity the other day and I got to give it to them, CCP are creating a truly beautiful game! It was like every other second was a 'Kodak Moment'
All I can say is keep up the excellent work, you guys really do deserve more credit than you're given.

On an unrelated note does anyone know where I can buy cheap storage space I am running out quickly Big smile


Edit: Spellings

Oderint Dum Metuant
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#25 - 2015-11-25 13:29:41 UTC
I know EVE is old (i'[m nto a tech type but i imagine it can be a pain in the rear dealing with it), but I think it is annoying for many of us (especially the most loyal customers) is how often things get broken.

Crimson Harvest is a perfect example, because of it I had all manner of problems on another character and had to file a support ticket (which was handled expertly btw). No one is expecting things to go perfectly all the time, but to be honest you guys at CCP need to work on these quality control issues. We keep hearing about VR this and VR that, is CCP slipping into the old way of pre-incarna where the game was allowed to slip while CCP focused on some new shiny thing elsewhere?

Snarkily asking us if we've file bug reports (many of us have and do when there is an issue) isn't the most helpful kind of reply. A simple "we know there are some issues and we're working on them, thanks for your help" is a more proper response.

Thanks.
OnklP
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-11-25 13:30:18 UTC
Dear CCP, this section of the forum, called "General Discussion" only consists of badly coverd trolling and manure tossing at people posting. I would just stop posting if I were you Lol
CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#27 - 2015-11-25 13:41:07 UTC
OnklP wrote:
Dear CCP, this section of the forum, called "General Discussion" only consists of badly coverd trolling and manure tossing at people posting. I would just stop posting if I were you Lol


What are you talking about? I regularly come here, after crying my eyes out over solving the same defect again for the 10th time and by doing so causing X many new issues which I couldn't cook up in my worst nightmares, just to see people be extremely patient and understanding at the slow (but steady) rate of bug fixings (and reintroduction).

I mean.. I threw out a change that ruined peoples training time and the amount of people that are just netflix & chill about it is worrying me much more than people complaining about nebulous things being broken without wanting to go into specifics. I actually do not worry much about issues that are not well defined, life's complicated enough as things stand so I don´t have to go around filling into the blanks of complaints just so I can understand them well enough to feel bad about them. It just seems like a waste of time, regardless of whether someone is trolling or not.

CCP Prism X

Programmer on Team Gridlock & Expert Ranter
Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#28 - 2015-11-25 14:21:01 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
amount of people that are just netflix & chill about it is worrying me


ShockedWhat?Cool
I wish I could feel that way about bugs in a video game

> anyone willing to give me like a 5 min politics crash course?

> grr goons, lowsec is full of elitist sh*s, all roads lead to the bittervet pl
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#29 - 2015-11-25 14:45:33 UTC
I remember a bug from the other day which I haven't got around to seeing if I can reproduce (purely due to Fallout 4, my bad), but here, have a rough description:

I was something like adding bulkheads to an obelisk I was sitting in. When I dragged the module onto the ship it added but stayed offline telling me there wasn't enough CPU, then I could turn it on afterwards as the role bonus had applied, so probably just the order in which it adds the modules and applies the role bonus.

All in all BIAB seems to have been alright, but I question how much need there is for it now that big battles are less likely to occur.

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Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#30 - 2015-11-25 15:11:00 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
I remember a bug from the other day which I haven't got around to seeing if I can reproduce (purely due to Fallout 4, my bad), but here, have a rough description:

I was something like adding bulkheads to an obelisk I was sitting in. When I dragged the module onto the ship it added but stayed offline telling me there wasn't enough CPU, then I could turn it on afterwards as the role bonus had applied, so probably just the order in which it adds the modules and applies the role bonus.

All in all BIAB seems to have been alright, but I question how much need there is for it now that big battles are less likely to occur.



My bulkheads are always offline when ever I fit them to my JF now and then I have to online them.

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#31 - 2015-11-25 15:26:33 UTC
Yeah, intermittently I'm finding that modules will be offline at first when I fit them, regardless of whether I have the resources to fit them or not.
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#32 - 2015-11-25 15:33:08 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
admiral kerk wrote:
please restore eve to its once great game status.... like it is now it is surly going to die.

Returning it to how it was would be the death knell. BIAB is a complete rewrite of some of the most fundamental underlying code, done in order to allow things to be bigger and better than they could have ever been under the previous system.

To give you a bit of an analogy, think of a flight that has already taken off. Prior to BIAB, we were under the clouds in a rain storm. There was terrible turbulence, visibility was low, and if you weren't sitting buckled in your chair, you were probably sitting on the ground holding on to the nearest seat.

Right now, we're in the clouds. Things are turbulent, sometimes worse than below the clouds, sometimes better, but by large, it's a different type of turbulence that we aren't used to, so it seems worse than before. We are, however, still ascending through the clouds.

Once we're above the clouds, we'll be above rainstorm and the wind it brings. Things will be bright and sunny. The air is calm. Visibility is incredible.

Don't demand the plane go back below the clouds just because you spilled your drink. We're all in this together, and in the long-run, suffering these growing pains will be very, very worth the way things will be once we're above the clouds (and through these growing pains).


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Malice Redeemer
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#33 - 2015-11-25 15:45:39 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?


So the server wide lag we are getting a time or two a day isn't caused by BITB?
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#34 - 2015-11-25 15:59:49 UTC
Malice Redeemer wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?
So the server wide lag we are getting a time or two a day isn't caused by BITB?
"server wide lag"? You have to explain a bit more.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Steijn
Quay Industries
#35 - 2015-11-25 16:05:54 UTC
only difference ive noticed, and it might have nothing to do with BIAB, when opening my character sheet to view standings, i always got the circle of doom and the client not responding whilst it loaded them. Now, opens straight away first time.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#36 - 2015-11-25 16:16:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
If some nolifes and neckberds would at least stand to their character names, they would see that CCP is doing great job fixing bugs when compared to other companies, like for example Bethesda, where you can get new game with bugs that were in previous games.

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Austneal
Nero Fazione
#37 - 2015-11-25 16:17:36 UTC
I got force undocked yesterday soon after logging in. I was just looking through my hangar, and suddenly I was in space. Didn't even have the undocking animation going.
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ISD Alliance
#38 - 2015-11-25 16:28:37 UTC
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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#39 - 2015-11-25 17:16:14 UTC
Malice Redeemer wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?


So the server wide lag we are getting a time or two a day isn't caused by BITB?



what server wide lag? i've had no issues from the wormhole i'm living in.

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Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2015-11-25 17:30:57 UTC
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:
EBR-50744 was the most recent one made on 10.12.2015


Where did you buy your time machine? I want one too!