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kk that answer my issue with T3

but what about shield appearance?

current shield will show effect on ship when have hardener/shield booster cycle. And new one only show once when use hardener/shield booster
is it bug or something?

I think flickering thrusters would have sense when your ship is totally wrecked like under 20% hull, and even then they should flicker randomly, not on every hit.

What kind of numbers are we talking about, when you say a good number of your players are still DX9.
Just tell people that by the end of 2016 DX9 will be discontinued.

I am a Mac user, so I don't know if wine supports the new stuff but, if not guess I am fracked.

Hi guys,

We've made a few updates to our visual damage system, to see what we've changed follow this link back to the first page - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=457138&p=1

We'd love your feedback on what we've changed so please keep it coming.

Can you please make it so that shield booster/armour repairer effects are always visible on the ship even if it is at 100%, as it is now.

I often use the look-at to see how a ship is fitted before deciding to engage and this effect is a useful sign.

Shield boost effect is almost always noticeable

And the hardener effect is noticeable once your shots hit

That said making the hardener effect more visible wouldnt be a bad thing but having it always running using the current effect would just look ugly

new vfx look good, but:

- armor hardener vfx just don't look right on some ships, looks ugly on a Nyx imo, it looked alright on a Paladin and Abaddon(those only ones i tested), looks alright on any amarr ship really since it matches the their hull color but theres just too much of it on the Nyx, u turn hardeners on and there is no nice looking Nyx hull anymore but a constantly glowing ugly yellow who knows what. It just doesn't look right, prev armor hard vfx is much better

- dunno if it's supposed to be that way but shield booster\ ASB has only one time visual effect on the first cycle then it stops, same for adaptive Invul mod

I really enjoy the new effects

I made some pic for the effects on shield armor

http://imgur.com/a/WNeUc

still I have to admit that on the Hurricane you saw the shield effects less and one the carrier the most

and thankyou for this work and the guys who where shooting at me in order to get the pic

Update about the hull damages: The threshold for the start of the flickering is way too low, it should start at ~95% remaining hull HP, not 50% or something :)

Sure, maybe it was a bit too much before, but now the effects are way too discreet :) I'm sure there is some middle ground to be found between the two. One or two flickers every 10 seconds should be more than enough at 80% remaining hull, for instance.

I'm also sad that the flames behind the ship are gone! With the new damage effects, it would have been a wonderful opportunity to create multiple, smaller, flaming trails behind the ship depending on where the damage is.

I'm also sad that the localized armor damage doesn't persist through stargate jumping, for instance. Armor damage isn't butter! No need to spread it evenly on the ship, it looks less personal and more "generic" if you do that. The whole point of the localized damage is to give some sort of "history" to the ship :)

Finally, I'd say that the armor repairer effect looks too small on ship like frigates. The shield hardener effect is way too discreet after the first cycle, (under fire, obviously, since otherwise it's straight invisible). As for the shield booster, it doesn't even show more than once, which is a huge dissapointment.

I like the visuals overall, I do however have a few small complaints..

The shield modules only show the effects once and then never again untill you turn them off and on again...

While the effect of an Invul field would get very annoying it it was always shown or shown every cycle, I think the shield boosters should show something every cycle..

Armor hardeners are too pronounced I think.. at least when viewing from an obtuse angle.

The effect can completely overpower any skin the ship has, it looks fine and subtle when viewed at a perpendicular view. but when the angle becomes more subtle the effect becomes much more pronounced.

I fly a Kronos with the police skin.. and that investment is rendered almost useless unless I look at it from a perpendicular angle.

I suggest making the effect more transparent the angles that currently make it less subtle.

To use some images from Ranka Souri

the effect looks fine in http://i.imgur.com/zVE3NkW.png

But http://i.imgur.com/7YIsJFy.png and http://i.imgur.com/sI9FGad.png shows an effect that makes the whole ship look like it was dipped in honey, and it obscures any skin that has been applied.

It would be fine if the effect would fade and refresh with each cycle of the module I think, but as is the effect is constant as soon as the module is active.