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This brain in a box patch and it's impact IMO

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admiral kerk
StarFleet Federation of Players
#1 - 2015-11-25 05:48:07 UTC
Well if CCP is trying to make the game unplayable for people they sure have done it right in this last patch .... Seems all it does is cause problems in the game.... sluggish behavior... lousy docking routines .... screen oddities ... and constant lag effects as to make playing eve a nightmare... all thes things and more have been experienced and some still happening.... seems like all CCP wants is to make it so slow to dock or take off unless you are a smaller ship.... Are you trying to make people leave eve, CCP?

mining links stop now and if you don't check lasers from time to time on the value of your yeild won't even notice it
I also heard a man lose a rattler to links stopping to boost his shields. once I was mining with my many toons and they had disconnected 10 minutes and I never noticed as my ships all were still out mining as if nothing happened.... they were gone yet the video did not show they had left. nice... maybe this new ploy is aimed at bot miners but the miners that never adk are being made t suffer. please restore eve to its once great game status.... like it is now it is surly going to die.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#2 - 2015-11-25 06:49:16 UTC
admiral kerk wrote:
please restore eve to its once great game status.... like it is now it is surly going to die.

Returning it to how it was would be the death knell. BIAB is a complete rewrite of some of the most fundamental underlying code, done in order to allow things to be bigger and better than they could have ever been under the previous system.

To give you a bit of an analogy, think of a flight that has already taken off. Prior to BIAB, we were under the clouds in a rain storm. There was terrible turbulence, visibility was low, and if you weren't sitting buckled in your chair, you were probably sitting on the ground holding on to the nearest seat.

Right now, we're in the clouds. Things are turbulent, sometimes worse than below the clouds, sometimes better, but by large, it's a different type of turbulence that we aren't used to, so it seems worse than before. We are, however, still ascending through the clouds.

Once we're above the clouds, we'll be above rainstorm and the wind it brings. Things will be bright and sunny. The air is calm. Visibility is incredible.

Don't demand the plane go back below the clouds just because you spilled your drink. We're all in this together, and in the long-run, suffering these growing pains will be very, very worth the way things will be once we're above the clouds (and through these growing pains).

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Lara Sunji
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-11-25 06:51:58 UTC
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#4 - 2015-11-25 07:10:36 UTC
Ill say the same thing here as Ive said in alliance and too friends in game.

Whats being changed is over a decade old code. Stuff that hasnt been changed since originally programmed and most, if not all, of the original programmers of said code are gone. Its being rewritten from the ground up to bring Eve into a new decade, a VERY ambitious program and one I shall give CCP kudos and BALLS to attempt to an old game. It should lay the framework to a modular and expansive game that can grow easier than old outdated code.

So yes a lot of bugs and oddities should and will occur. Yes it sucks but the alternative is old code thats unchanged and cant keep up with current tech irregardless of all the bitching and whining ppl do everywhere. So be aware of what the true scope of CCPs work is atm, give them breathing room and patience to see it through... and THEN when it still sucks to you *****. But not before its done.


I dislike a lot of the bugs, things creeping up but if I understand where its going, why and whats being accomplished I can understand it and just grin and bear it. Cuz everyone else has the same handicaps atm. And yes CCP will fix and listen. Itll just take time.

So every *****, whine, **** and moan.... remember this. DO you want the game to stay the exact same way or to grow? Growth hurts, challenges and causes sadness. But the end result is hopefully good.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Doctor Carbonatite
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-11-25 07:26:25 UTC
admiral kerk, more like admiral kek
Capsups
Atomic Mangocorp
#6 - 2015-11-25 08:20:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Capsups
Post a thread like this on any other MMO's forum and you'd get 99% of the population to agree with you because of their complete lack of ability to see things long term. Here on the Eve-o forums though... Pirate

Never change guys. <3

CCP is definitely on the right way.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#7 - 2015-11-25 08:41:36 UTC
Things change. We're all in the same boat with the same choice - adapt or die. CCP has the same choice - Eve must adapt to a changing market if it is to survive.

If BIAB was working perfectly if wouldn't make everyone happy - one of the design goals is to let CCP get rid of off-grid links. Should see lots of tears (and cheers) when that happens!
Helia Tranquilis
Confused Bunnies Inc
#8 - 2015-11-25 08:49:44 UTC
CCP should revert the entire game to second genesis release. Then everyone would be happy.

/thread
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2015-11-25 10:32:27 UTC
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?

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Neckbeard Nolyfe
Zero Fun Allowed
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#10 - 2015-11-25 10:50:54 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?


Maybe try playing the game, and you will see what people mean.

ps. naglfars are still making siege sounds every minute even tho bug reports were made 3 months ago.

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Trudeaux Margaret
University of Caille
#11 - 2015-11-25 10:51:45 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?



Quoting this for emphasis. If you run across something specific that you know shouldn't be happening, send in a bug report. The in-game reporting feature is very robust. It takes a screenshot for you right there if you need to, adds arrows/circles to the screenie to point out exactly what's wrong, and makes the whole process as painless as possible.

If the devs don't know what to fix, then they can't fix it, so report!

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2015-11-25 10:57:50 UTC
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?
Maybe try playing the game, and you will see what people mean.
At the significant risk of repeating myself: Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2015-11-25 10:58:34 UTC
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?
ps. naglfars are still making siege sounds every minute even tho bug reports were made 3 months ago.
What was/were the bug report(s) numbers?

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2015-11-25 11:07:53 UTC
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:

ps. naglfars are still making siege sounds every minute even tho bug reports were made 3 months ago.


Our sound team has already fixed that issue internally and the fix is scheduled to release in our December deployment, thanks to a bug report from last month.

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#15 - 2015-11-25 11:18:06 UTC
Trudeaux Margaret wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?



Quoting this for emphasis. If you run across something specific that you know shouldn't be happening, send in a bug report. The in-game reporting feature is very robust. It takes a screenshot for you right there if you need to, adds arrows/circles to the screenie to point out exactly what's wrong, and makes the whole process as painless as possible.

Except for when you hit "submit" and the client freezes for 15 seconds or more.
Darkon Gatland
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2015-11-25 11:20:46 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?
ps. naglfars are still making siege sounds every minute even tho bug reports were made 3 months ago.
What was/were the bug report(s) numbers?


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I want the truth!

You can't handle the truth!"
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2015-11-25 11:33:37 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:
ps. naglfars are still making siege sounds every minute even tho bug reports were made 3 months ago.
Our sound team has already fixed that issue internally and the fix is scheduled to release in our December deployment, thanks to a bug report from last month.
Well, here you go!

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Valkin Mordirc
#18 - 2015-11-25 11:41:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkin Mordirc
Player base: WE WANT NEW STUFF

CCP: Okay here's a ton of new ships, graphics, mechanic's for the game to make it fresh. Also we are recoding the entirety of the old game to keep the game smooth and make a better playing experience. Just keep in mind that this may have a few bugs as we move towards it, as we explained at EVE-Vegas, the Devblog and so on,

Player base: NYAAAAHHH YOU BROKE THE GAME CCPLS YOU SUCK I WANT MY OLD GAME BACK.

CCP: =\

Player base: YOU HAVN'T FIX X BUG

CCP: It's coming in the next patch...

Player base: NYAAAH YOU SUCK WHAT ABOUT THIS BUG?!?! MY LOKI IS BLACK AND HAS NO TEXTURES

CCP: Clear your Cache?

Player base: NYAAAH


Edit: Also calling it now that a ton of peeps are going to whine when the extended DT happens when the servers switch out.
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Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#19 - 2015-11-25 12:14:34 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Lara Sunji wrote:
It's pretty buggy currently, not sure if CCP is aware or not or even working on it or not. It's a shame.
While we know of a few remaining issues stemming from the Brain in a Box feature, then "pretty buggy" is not what comes to my mind. Have you sent us bug reports from the issues you are experiencing?
ps. naglfars are still making siege sounds every minute even tho bug reports were made 3 months ago.
What was/were the bug report(s) numbers?


you should spend a bit more time in "Issue" forum than in "general", I keep redirecting players to the ticket system, should I tell them to the "bug report" in game instead? (booster not applying, pos gun stuck on ship and needing dock redock to fix, and other issuer, but that was just yesterday.)
Neckbeard Nolyfe
Zero Fun Allowed
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#20 - 2015-11-25 12:22:39 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:

What was/were the bug report(s) numbers?


EBR-50744 was the most recent one made on 10.12.2015

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