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T3 Battleship ?
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Jong Fera
Albireo Solem
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2015-11-23 21:48:45 UTC
Hello,

I was talking with a friend of mine about what we would like to see on Eve and we both ended talking about a big ship (maybe a battleship ), like a strategic cruiser, but insteed of subsystems it should use capsules from pilots .

4 capsules : 1 driving the boat, 1 at guns, 1 middle, 1 lows .

I would love to be on a single ship with my friends, not to mention our enemys when 4 capsules pops :)

What do you think guys ?

Sry for my poor English .
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2015-11-23 22:13:49 UTC
Why?
Zimmer Jones
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-11-24 01:48:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmer Jones
Cant say use the search function on this one, had to work a bit to find this.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5627531

ed* it starts with carriers but the last post is the relevant one. I couldn't find an official dev response, but i didn't go check the old forums.

Use the force without consent and the court wont acquit you even if you are a card carryin', robe wearin' Jedi.
Iain Cariaba
#4 - 2015-11-24 04:02:36 UTC
Jong Fera wrote:
Hello,

I was talking with a friend of mine about what we would like to see on Eve and we both ended talking about a big ship (maybe a battleship ), like a strategic cruiser, but insteed of subsystems it should use capsules from pilots .

4 capsules : 1 driving the boat, 1 at guns, 1 middle, 1 lows .

I would love to be on a single ship with my friends, not to mention our enemys when 4 capsules pops :)

What do you think guys ?

Sry for my poor English .

iirc, there's no possible way for this to work without a complete rewrite of the base code.

Also, all that would do is make the four of you lose a single ship. You're much better off having your friends in different ships. Maybe if CCP were to implement some kind of group play option, like a fleet... oh, wait...
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-11-24 05:44:10 UTC
Jong Fera wrote:
4 capsules : 1 driving the boat, 1 at guns, 1 middle, 1 lows .

Sounds more like a job for a capital ship than a tech 3 ship.



I wrote up an extensive idea for a tech 3 battleship. It's very different from yours, but it is also very different from the strategic or tactical lines yet reasonably well balanced. Perhaps you'd like to have a look: Tech III - Flexible Battleship

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#6 - 2015-11-24 05:50:07 UTC
servers can't handle multiple pilots in 1 ship, iirc

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#7 - 2015-11-24 06:12:52 UTC
For the last time on the topic, NO!

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
#8 - 2015-11-24 09:05:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Mac
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
servers can't handle multiple pilots in 1 ship, iirc

Really? Take look at Cho'Gall hero in Heroes of the Storm. 2 players in one hero.
Servers can handle

I agree with Reaver. Thats should be for big ship like titan/supercarrier.
1 for movement
1 for offensive
1 for defensive
1 for scanning
Or something like this
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-11-24 09:14:35 UTC
Jong Fera wrote:
Hello,

I was talking with a friend of mine about what we would like to see on Eve and we both ended talking about a big ship (maybe a battleship ), like a strategic cruiser, but insteed of subsystems it should use capsules from pilots .

4 capsules : 1 driving the boat, 1 at guns, 1 middle, 1 lows .

I would love to be on a single ship with my friends, not to mention our enemys when 4 capsules pops :)

What do you think guys ?

Sry for my poor English .


Yeah i was asking when this would come up again. Use the search funktion.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-11-24 09:48:01 UTC
Mr Mac wrote:
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
servers can't handle multiple pilots in 1 ship, iirc

Really? Take look at Cho'Gall hero in Heroes of the Storm. 2 players in one hero.
Servers can handle

I believe he means that the legacy code is hardwired to not support it.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#11 - 2015-11-24 13:51:43 UTC
Check baboli's thread... It is the only even remotely workable idea i have ever seen for t3 battleships...

Also there is no fundemental difference in the core database between a player and an item. Its a box with some modules fitted in my case thats Gallante Battleships 5 and not "invul field II" but fundementally DOGMA sees no difference.

And because of that the database simply does not allow for it on my understanding of the codebase (which is admittingly limited). And while you could CHANGE the codebase such a ground up rewrite would in all probability mean it would be easier to rewrite eve from scratch.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#12 - 2015-11-24 14:03:25 UTC
I need a battleship with 300k ehp, 2000 dps and a 40km scram range. CCP make it happen. Also it should be extremely expensive.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2015-11-24 16:42:17 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I need a battleship with 300k ehp, 2000 dps and a 40km scram range. CCP make it happen. Also it should be extremely expensive.


See, that's just a barghest. You have to think bigger.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#14 - 2015-11-24 18:48:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Barghests don't have anything like that much EHP. I actually really love my Barghest bit I'd like it more if it was twice as thick.
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#15 - 2015-11-24 18:49:43 UTC
that's gotta be one spensive ass flipper...

What are you rocking on that meta 15 EANMs and 5plates? or are you going shield tanked with meta 15 power diagnostics or something?
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#16 - 2015-11-24 19:18:07 UTC
FireFrenzy wrote:
that's gotta be one spensive ass flipper...

What are you rocking on that meta 15 EANMs and 5plates? or are you going shield tanked with meta 15 power diagnostics or something?


Nawh, mang. Just a metric poop ton of Estamel's Invulns. And a Tobias MWD and scram, just for kicks.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-11-24 19:28:53 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I need a battleship with 300k ehp, 2000 dps and a 40km scram range. CCP make it happen. Also it should be extremely expensive.


See, that's just a barghest. You have to think bigger.

Barghest won't get that much damage but you can do this with a Vindicator. Most important thing when selecting a ship for the role is picking one with a lot of damage and being willing to spend a lot of ISK on it. There's a limit to how far you can upgrade your damage but everything else has a lot of possibilities.

[Vindicator, New Setup 1]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
1600mm Steel Plates II
1600mm Steel Plates II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Damage Control II

Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Hakim's Modified Warp Disruptor

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II

'Augmented' Wasp x5

High-Grade Slave Alpha
High-Grade Slave Beta
High-Grade Slave Gamma
High-Grade Slave Delta
High-Grade Slave Epsilon
High-Grade Slave Omega
Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Management SM-706



With full Claymore boosts and max skills, this thing gets:
EHP: 300,157
DPS: 2001
Warp Disruptor range: 40.3 km

Oh and never you mind the fact it has some bonus armor hit points. Those were extra slots and powergrid anyway.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#18 - 2015-11-24 19:32:53 UTC
Eww dual tank! Otherwise that would be great.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-11-24 19:39:59 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Eww dual tank! Otherwise that would be great.

If you can find a ship that can hit 2000 DPS but with more low slots, you could do it in one tank type. There's just not any implant sets that boost shield HP by like half.

Maybe Vindicator can do it with an armor tank and I just missed it, but I think it'd need at least 1 more low slot, maybe 2.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#20 - 2015-11-24 19:47:32 UTC
Jong Fera wrote:
Hello,

I was talking with a friend of mine about what we would like to see on Eve and we both ended talking about a big ship (maybe a battleship ), like a strategic cruiser, but insteed of subsystems it should use capsules from pilots .

4 capsules : 1 driving the boat, 1 at guns, 1 middle, 1 lows .

I would love to be on a single ship with my friends, not to mention our enemys when 4 capsules pops :)

What do you think guys ?

Sry for my poor English .



I have to multibox my four chars for one ship? Alright, I will do it :)
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