EVE General Discussion

Do you think that the amount of information that can be found by using the API is starting to hurt/ruin Eve?

My major issue is the sheer amount of information that can be found out of game.

Being able to fit ships, create training plans is great, but when you can find out the entire corp / alliance membership, the history of each player etc without even logging into the game, I find that actually quite sad.

Even being able to see how many NPC and player kills are being made in each system (including WH), spoils it a little.

Personally I think Eve would be much more enjoyable if information like this had to be obtained by using in game methods and not just running a script.

Anyone else wish that that this kind of info should only be available in game and not just by somebody running a script?

Because if there's something EvE needs more of... it's manual spreadsheets.

No..

If you don't like it YOU can not use it.

As for the corp and member info. It is called every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You can't hide in EVE the same way you can with other MMOs.



Then why are you looking at Dotlan or the part of the map that shows it?

In a world of super computers and massive databases, why shouldn't this information be available?

You later go on to suggest that the information should only be available ingame, why would it make any diffrence whether CCP's or a third parties script was accessing the database?

1. The rest of wspace stats are being removed soon as well from the API or so the evil mastermind Soundwave has said.
2. NPC/Ship kills is viewable in the ingame map, if there was no API, then people would just write memory reading scripts to get the data if they wanted it, on the plus side, the ingame map updates far faster than the API

You use a lot of words and end up saying absolutely nothing.

He said "Doing it manually is tough".

He meant, "I wonder how much longer we can leave our bots in that system before someone notices?"

removing the API would just empower large alliances even further - because they would be the ones who could coordinate to have their own "evemaps" like website fed 23/7 with information directly polled from some member's EVE client (thx to the glory of python injections).

edit: imo the API should really be turned into a 2-way interface that also allows us to update skills, change market orders, deliver industry jobs, ...

There is a little too much free intel going around in Eve. Between exact killmail reports of fittings, to the jumps/kills APIs, some stuff goes a little too far.

It greatly simplifies intelligence gathering for those without the ability to do so (small corps, people who have morals and don't use spais) and it does a lot to maintain keep some turmoil going (e.g. drawing roamers to systems with lots of NPC kills). Killmails (and killboards) also provide an incentive to PvP for some.

However, the lots of free intel provided by these things should be toned down some: kill reports in wormholes make no sense. Who was there to see it? Exact fitting reports on killmails make little sense too. If you couldn't see their fit when they were alive, what was it about the massive fireball they went up in that told you if they had a Nanofiber Internal Structure or an Overdrive Injector System?

Other than that? The character and corporation APIs are awesome and we need more of that. Eve is a very numbers-intensive game, and you often need 3rd party programs to optimize your performance -- since in-game utilities are inadequate. Plus, they allow for interesting out-of-game utilities: "GPS" systems, lotteries/gambling games, automated membership checking for forums, etc.

tl;dr: some of the free intel in APIs could be tuned down some, but the personal utility APIs are just fine IMO.

I can't get it to work on EVE Mon anymore. It used tah. Now it don't. I've waited the requisite thirty minutes and everything. Same with EFT. Two good tools gone cause of an improvement. Go figure.