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Most Lucrative means to Earn and generate ISK

Jadon Wallace
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-11-16 20:08:56 UTC
I thought this question was best posed on this forum over the others. I am looking for it all, most efficient ways to generate income, most reliable ways to generate income. The most risk and risk-adverse ways to generate income and generally whatever generates a nice income stream whether it be passive or direct. I am of the mindset that people will be reluctant to give up the best and most lucrative income methods as it's there gravy train however I am curious as to the methods and means people use to generate modest to absurd amounts of ISK, this is of course subjective as having tens of billions in the bank isn't much to some these days. I eagerly and curiously await your replies.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#2 - 2015-11-16 20:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
People are willing to share their market knowledge, but asking to be spoonfed like this will likely put people off.

The big drop on the blue and green lines was when Somer Blink was banned, so start a a casino I guess.
Jadon Wallace
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-11-16 21:10:12 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
People are willing to share their market knowledge, but asking to be spoonfed like this will likely put people off.

The big drop on the blue and green lines was when Somer Blink was banned, so start a a casino I guess.

No not at all, you misunderstand my intentions. Why I mentioned people may be reluctant to give out such information, I am more after generlisations rather than as you put it concise being 'spoon fed'.
Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining
#4 - 2015-11-16 22:17:02 UTC
I'd assume the "best" way to make isk would be to create a corp and siphon isk that way. Either through using miners and have a steady supply of cheap ore, or using a tax to collect from mission runners. Being the head of a major nullsec alliance would probably be even better for similar reasons.

After that I'd say that aggressive market speculation and trading. With speculation there is no real limit to how much you can make, and with trading it is all up to how much effort you are willing to put in. It does however take a while to build up as you need significant starting isk and know-how to make a lot of isk.

Running anomalies (especially cap escalated) in wh's would probably come next. Mostly high level wh's (C5 and 6) but lower level can be very effective (c3). Not much experience in the other ones.

Next I'd probably say is blitzing missions. Never done this myself, but what I'd guess based off of what some people are saying they get in isk/hr.

Closely behind this would be incursion running.

Next would be pimped ratting (using a carrier or pirate faction bs with pimped mods).

After this I'd say non-pimped ratting (afktar)

Followed by regular missioning (not blitzing, taking your time, killing everything, looting, etc.)

Next probably hauling? You can make a respectable amount if you fly with red frog, other than that can be a little hit or miss.

Finally I'd probably say mining.

Somewhere in there would be exploration. If you're running relic sites in null, you can make a crap ton. You can also make a whole hell of a lot by running scanned sites and/or buying escalations off ratters. The problem with exploration is it is incredibly hit or miss. You might not be able to find any relic sites if someone came through right before you. You might find a DED site, but get crap loot. Or you could get over a billion in a single 6/10. It's kind of hard to place it because of the unpredictability, but I'd guess somewhere around blitzing missions and incursion running? Honestly not sure, might be a little lower.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#5 - 2015-11-16 22:50:41 UTC
Best way to get your first five billion is corp theft.

Best way to go from five billion to a hundred billion is trading.

Best way to go from a hundred billion to a trillion is informed patch speculation.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance.

Dominique Vasilkovsky
#6 - 2015-11-16 23:00:47 UTC
I would say Sabriz gave a pretty good answer! lol
Alt Pilot1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-11-17 01:13:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Alt Pilot1
Biggest earners:

1. Speculation in general

2. Data mining + speculation (if you have programming knowledge). For example when a new patch hits SiSi, you compare the new code vs. old code to see what changed in terms of drop rates, etc. But I don't have any programming knowledge so I'm not able to do it.

3. Organize an alliance, take over space, charge rent.
SJ Astralana
#8 - 2015-11-17 01:38:25 UTC
T1 production on a single toon maxes out in excess of 17bil a month, clocking 2.2bil/hr while logged in, turning over over 9% per month on capital. With data mining, it's pretty trivial to find items that return 7-15% on capital per month, so for example 20bil in assets should reliably net about 2bil a month in mostly passive income. This is one case where being an "active producer" works against you, as churning your items for low margins burns out your capital and is less effective than letting the price spikes come to you.

Hyperdrive your production business: Eve Production Manager

Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-11-17 11:22:53 UTC
offer an rl service and rake in the isk

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#10 - 2015-11-17 21:04:10 UTC
Get a good job in RL. Buy loads of PLEX.

Pras Phil.

Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
#11 - 2015-11-17 23:45:55 UTC
Find areas that have barriers to entry. The higher the barrier is there will be less competition. As is with all things, barriers come down over time, so exploit while you can.

Hope this helps.

Be careful what you think, for your thoughts become your words. Be careful what you say, for your words become your actions. Be careful what you do, for your actions become your character. And character is everything. - author unknown

Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-11-18 00:40:28 UTC
Syna Anima
#13 - 2015-11-20 17:42:49 UTC
Hi there,

Making ISK as a new player is not as easy, but once you get your hands on 1 billion or enough liquidity to enter the market and trade then you are in business and the only bottleneck is your thirst for ISK.

Any PVE activity (see mission/mining/incursions/exploration) should only be considered for the first few months as a new player (plus it's nice to explore the game), but if you really want to make money, aim for the market.

It is true that if you live in 0.0 and you like to play a lot and probe nice complexes that drop a a bil or more, then a few of those per week and you have more than you need. Incursions are also easy ISK, but boring as hell.

Now from my 8 years experience, at least for me, the only limit in how much ISK you can make is your motivation and if you want to bother, there is no limit TBH. Once you reach a certain milestone (50 bil, 100 bil, 1 trillion in ISK) you are likely not going to bother to go further since if you need more money you know what to do, and the easiest way is... to use the market.

There are many ways to make ISK using the market if you have ISK to invest:

1. Station trading, I hate .01 games so I never do this, but if you have 10h/day to update orders then you can be rich. Pick a hub fit for you. You can also study market trends and such... it's not bad, but you need experience.
2. Regional/local trading, less .01 games and chill, you need some nice liquidity but once you get going you can basically absorb and sell everything that happens in one region... which is tons of ISK, the level of profit only depends on your time.
3. 0.0 market hubs, every 0.0 alliance has a capital, stock it with all their doctrines and become rich.
4. You have too much liquid ISK? Buy say 100 plexes (120 bil) and in 3 months you have 138 bil... the current inflation is about 5%/ month. That is 6 bil/month doing nothing.
5. Set region wide buy orders (pick one that suits you) and sell in said region, you can have ridiculous profits for some items. Some people like to liquidate and sell their stuff, even if they get 10% of it's value (don't ask me why they do it).
6. Create a market hub in 0.0 from scratch... people will go where they can buy stuff, invest say 50 bil in a no-name station and see the profits (make sure there are people there).
7. etc etc...

There are tons of other ways to make money on the market... even selling one system away from Jita on the local market can bring you a decent profit (hint: look for lvl 4 agent stations).

Alternatively, you can be like The Mittani and have 16k people to tax. But we can't all be alliance executors, so your best bet to make too much ISK is to trade. TBH I lost my motivation after a certain point and I just sit on Plexes now and do some small time trading to keep some ISK flowing for regular expenses.

The beauty with trading is that it scales quite nicely up until a point, after that a constant passive income is just beautiful. You wake up and there you go, you made another bil. You can't do that with classic PVE (missions etc...).

Let me know if you got more questions.

TLDR: Buy low, Sell high, ???, Profit.
Abra Ka Dabra
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-11-20 18:12:29 UTC
Put up sell orders for warp core stabilisers in FW space @ 100mil a piece and wait.
Aker Krane
Rising Darkness
#15 - 2015-11-21 11:15:39 UTC
Do what you like to do most in the game.
Do it well.
Anize Oramara
#16 - 2015-11-23 13:34:34 UTC
If you don't like trading you can blitz missions and make a 'fixed' income. It's not too risky if you know how to manage your risk (Insta docks/undocks, d-scan for combat probes, don't fly too much bling). Guide in sig on it if you want more info.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3

InterStellar Architect
InterStellar Architects Corporation
#17 - 2015-11-23 18:15:27 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
If you don't like trading you can blitz missions and make a 'fixed' income. It's not too risky if you know how to manage your risk (Insta docks/undocks, d-scan for combat probes, don't fly too much bling). Guide in sig on it if you want more info.

I've seen videos of people blitzing Sleeper sites with a Naglfar, I've never been involved much with PvE so I'm not sure about the isk / hour - but I imagine it could be pretty lucrative.