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A quick couple noob POS Q's
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Soho Joe
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-06 22:33:08 UTC
Well I was wondering, if you have good standings for a faction lets say .8+ and the corp you are with has terrible standings with the faction you have, can you anchor a POS? Or do corp standings carry to all members because of the corp tag?

If the later is true can I drop corp, get POS set up and rejoin corp with POS still being good to go for corp? Sorry for the noobish Q's but new to POS's any help would be great....Thanks In advance
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-06 22:37:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
Only corporate standings matter when setting up a POS. Individual standings are ignored.

You can not anchor a POS for yourself. A POS is always a corporation property. Therefore if you leave a corp, the POS stays in that corp.


(Would people understand this better if we started calling them "COS"? Corporation Owned Starbase?)
Soho Joe
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-01-06 22:42:13 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Only corporate standings matter when setting up a POS. Individual standings are ignored.

You can not anchor a POS for yourself. A POS is always a corporation property. Therefore if you leave a corp, the POS stays in that corp.


(Would people understand this better if we started calling them "COS"? Corporation Owned Starbase?)


So I have to be in a corp before I can launch a POS? If so can you make a corp launch then.....welp brain just kicked in ok ty summary; I have to be in a corp, and corp has to have the standings so I can launch and cannot leave corp and take a anchord POS with me...TY
Iosue
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#4 - 2012-01-06 23:17:52 UTC
you can easily create your own 1-man corp, then launch the POS for the corp. you can leave an alt in that POS corp and rejoin your old corp if you want. however, only the POS alt will be able to use the POS so make sure they have useful skills.
Jason McCoy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-06 23:46:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason McCoy
Iosue wrote:
you can easily create your own 1-man corp, then launch the POS for the corp. you can leave an alt in that POS corp and rejoin your old corp if you want. however, only the POS alt will be able to use the POS so make sure they have useful skills.

Which is totally useless.

Make your one man corp, wait the week + 1 or 2 days, until the one man corp has your personal standings, then anchor the pos. Then have everyone from that old corp join yours and you guys should be set to go.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#6 - 2012-01-07 03:22:25 UTC
Jason McCoy wrote:
Iosue wrote:
you can easily create your own 1-man corp, then launch the POS for the corp. you can leave an alt in that POS corp and rejoin your old corp if you want. however, only the POS alt will be able to use the POS so make sure they have useful skills.

Which is totally useless.

Make your one man corp, wait the week + 1 or 2 days, until the one man corp has your personal standings, then anchor the pos. Then have everyone from that old corp join yours and you guys should be set to go.


Or kick everyone out of the current corp to allow your corp to get the standings to anchor the POS.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-01-07 06:11:43 UTC
Or anchor the POS in 0.4 or lower security space and ignore standings completely...

You also save because you do not have to feed it any charters.

However, this means you must put some hardware at a (theoretical) risk. In practice if you haven't pissed off anyone, people rarely pop lowsec POSes randomly unless you happen to plant 'em in a system someone considers their "home".
Brock Nelson
#8 - 2012-01-07 07:11:32 UTC
Jason McCoy wrote:
Iosue wrote:
you can easily create your own 1-man corp, then launch the POS for the corp. you can leave an alt in that POS corp and rejoin your old corp if you want. however, only the POS alt will be able to use the POS so make sure they have useful skills.

Which is totally useless.

Make your one man corp, wait the week + 1 or 2 days, until the one man corp has your personal standings, then anchor the pos. Then have everyone from that old corp join yours and you guys should be set to go.


Corp standing is recalculated at downtime everyday.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#9 - 2012-01-07 07:23:40 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
Jason McCoy wrote:
Iosue wrote:
you can easily create your own 1-man corp, then launch the POS for the corp. you can leave an alt in that POS corp and rejoin your old corp if you want. however, only the POS alt will be able to use the POS so make sure they have useful skills.

Which is totally useless.

Make your one man corp, wait the week + 1 or 2 days, until the one man corp has your personal standings, then anchor the pos. Then have everyone from that old corp join yours and you guys should be set to go.


Corp standing is recalculated at downtime everyday.


Of the people who have standings (make sure the alt has never done a mission), and who have been in corp for 7+ days.

Also, once the POS is anchored, your standings can go to hell, no problem.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Brock Nelson
#10 - 2012-01-07 07:30:10 UTC
The 7 days rule has been changed to downtime daily.

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Jenny Hong
Voidhounds
Pretenders
#11 - 2012-01-07 17:51:49 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
The 7 days rule has been changed to downtime daily.


This does not appear to be completely true.

I made a new 1-man corp yesterday, well before downtime.

My personal standing with Caldari State is +4.79. But this morning, my new corp still has standing with Caldari State (and everyone else) of 0.0

So it would appear that either there is a bug with how the standings are reported, or else there is a delay of some sort built into the system.
Brock Nelson
#12 - 2012-01-07 17:59:18 UTC
I don't know but I certainly got my 1 day corp standing raised after the first downtime.

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Mortaliton
Industrialist and Manufacturers Directorate
#13 - 2012-01-08 14:21:56 UTC
Been a while but.

Newly created corp 7 day rule. After 7 days its always downtime.

did you buy a corp and kick everyone to have it raised at DT or was it new?

Mort.
Ahaz Darkfall
Division One Trade and Aquisition
#14 - 2012-01-09 03:12:08 UTC
corp standings use your base standings not your effective standing after skill mods.
Soho Joe
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-01-10 19:15:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Soho Joe
I have 7+ standings with one faction and 8+ with the other before corrected with skills, also I created my own corp, updated info with my skills. Now waiting to see if skills updated at DT or if I have to wait 7 days.

Thanks for the replies, gonna anchor a Med POS see how it goes, also one more Q, are the fuel blocks now useable? I can go look but thread is open so I fig I would ask here. Thanks again for the help
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#16 - 2012-01-10 19:31:33 UTC
Fuel block consumption begins Jan 24th after down time.

So if you anchor before then, you need to use existing fuel and have fuel blocks ready for the cross over. If you wait till after the 24th, you just need fuel blocks and starbase charters.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2012-01-10 19:45:46 UTC
Mortaliton wrote:
Been a while but.

Newly created corp 7 day rule. After 7 days its always downtime.

did you buy a corp and kick everyone to have it raised at DT or was it new?

Mort.



Pretty much this.

The current mechanic is as follows:

CS = sum(TS)/Toons

where:
CS = Corp Standing
TS = Toon Standing (unmodified by skills)
Toons = total number of toons affecting standing.


In order for a toon to affect standings:

  • They must have been in the corp for a minimum of seven (7) days (or downtimes, whatever)
  • They must have non-null standings (i.e. have run a storyline).
  • At least one (1) storyline has to be run by someone in the corp to "kick" the standings into being calculated. Generally this would be done by the CEO sometime between day 0 and 7 of their corporation being formed, so that the POS can be anchored on day 7.


The Corp Standings are then calculated daily at downtime, taking into account all characters that meet the above criteria.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia