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Where is the war in EVE?
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Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#41 - 2015-11-18 08:29:42 UTC
It would **** off a lot of people and I agree maybe it would be bad for business, but it is the type of game CCP seem to want. My point was only that too many alts are bad from a gameplay perspective and it would be great if CCP could figure out a way to reduce the need for alts possibly by removing some of the more dull "activities" from the game.

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Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#42 - 2015-11-18 15:47:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
Kuronaga wrote:
As in any strategy game, to kill your enemy the most critical blow is to kill their economy.

In the past, I found that hitting the botters had a good effect on pissing off the russians, but this is certainly true of any alliance I'm sure.
Ergo, and according to Sun Tzu, the only way to live is to have an economy impervious to destruction. Does EVE penalize this by making it preferable to have NO economy - thus shooting themselves in the foot with regard to FizzleSoV®?

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#43 - 2015-11-18 16:17:50 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:

Problem here is I can't wait untill they are collecting resources from that system and return the favor, because they never do. All the isk making is off on some Gila in 0.8 space farming refuges, and you can't reasonably kill those now can you? I tried to gank one with an 800 dps polarized catalyst, that didn't take 1 tenth of his shield buffer.

Looks like you are not cut out for highsec elite PvP yet. Better stick to easy mode lowsec/nullsec PvP where you don't have to face CONCORD. We all had to start small.

Evil RatKid
Pelle Wittewoa
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2015-11-18 16:26:25 UTC
only isk nerfs aka plex roi boostings
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#45 - 2015-11-20 00:16:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Ima Wreckyou wrote:

Looks like you are not cut out for highsec elite PvP yet. Better stick to easy mode lowsec/nullsec PvP where you don't have to face CONCORD. We all had to start small.



CODE is just a bunch of wanabe Scientologists, please stop talking ass backwards.

Also just an FYI when some CODE dude in a mecharial was demanding 200 million ransom from a freighter he was bumping? I arrived to help unbump the freighter, and got the 200 mill ransom instead as a gift.


Also going to mention the fact CODE has never once ganked me. So much for "elites"... Marmite's even killed me more than you have!

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#46 - 2015-11-20 00:32:30 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:

Looks like you are not cut out for highsec elite PvP yet. Better stick to easy mode lowsec/nullsec PvP where you don't have to face CONCORD. We all had to start small.



CODE is just a bunch of wanabe Scientologists, please stop talking ass backwards.

Also just an FYI when some CODE dude in a mecharial was demanding 200 million ransom from a freighter he was bumping? I arrived to help unbump the freighter, and got the 200 mill ransom instead as a gift.


Also going to mention the fact CODE has never once ganked me. So much for "elites"... Marmite's even killed me more than you have!


you know things are bad when you on marmite kilboard but not on code's

@JerryTPepridge
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#47 - 2015-11-20 00:42:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Hal Morsh wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:

Looks like you are not cut out for highsec elite PvP yet. Better stick to easy mode lowsec/nullsec PvP where you don't have to face CONCORD. We all had to start small.



CODE is just a bunch of wanabe Scientologists, please stop talking ass backwards.

Also just an FYI when some CODE dude in a mecharial was demanding 200 million ransom from a freighter he was bumping? I arrived to help unbump the freighter, and got the 200 mill ransom instead as a gift.


Also going to mention the fact CODE has never once ganked me. So much for "elites"... Marmite's even killed me more than you have!


you know things are bad when you on marmite kilboard but not on code's



Some Russian was trying to gank me once. He wasn't code tho. He also warped in at range, sooooo.....

Marmite killed me a few jumps off the noob station with my belongings when I joined some corp, then Holysheet killed my pod a few jumps later with an interdictor cruiser (which to this day still confuses me). Then there was the day I was yellow and didn't want to wait to dock at amarr in my pod. Lets just say the game likes to place you a few k off station from time to time.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#48 - 2015-11-21 00:41:20 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Hal Morsh is a strong contender for worst eve player.
Depending on aspect I think you are a strong contender.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Paul Pohl
blue media poetry
#49 - 2015-11-21 02:38:11 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Valacus wrote:
Alt exploitation makes a lot of things in EVE undoable. You can't cut the ISK lines for major alliances because they can just farm anoms and incursions in high sec on another account in an unaffiliated corp/alliance. You can't have a bounty system because people will simply blow themselves up on another characer in an unaffiliated corp/alliance and claim their own bounty. You can't cut their supply lines because people will just use JF alts in an unaffiliated corp/alliance and leave that corp for a new one if you wardec it.

But at the same time, the game is designed to force you to use alternate accounts. You can only train one character per account. You can only JC once every 24 hours, and now you have jump aids that prevents you from using jump drives and bridges to make up the distance in space, so if your main lives in nulsec you can't just run to Jita whenever you need something. You can't safely move around on your own even in high sec, so you must have a scout if you're flying anything valuable, but there's no one who's going to scout for your 24/7 besides yourself. Fleets with links completely outclass fleets without links, and links will be the first thing targeted on the field so we use them all off grid, yet no one wants to be that one guy who flies in a straight line by himself in the middle of nowhere while everyone else has fun, so you someone has to have a booster alt to ensure you can compete. You can't train for both combat and industry at the same time, so if you're new you need at least 2 accounts just to be able to experience the depth of the whole game, and even then you're still missing a huge portion if you don't at least run 3. The list goes on and on.


What, exactly, do you like about EVE?


nowt - and that's what keeps him happy
Ruddger
Vande-lay Industries
#50 - 2015-11-21 21:41:51 UTC
Eve has many flaws, alts and high sec ganking is one of them, but surviving in low sec or making isk in low or high sec is not one of the flaws.


In my opinion it is already far far too easy to make isk in low and high sec in relative safety. I've tried to work with you hal. I've tried to teach you the most basic concepts of survival, but so far you've mostly refused to listen or engage these ideas. I assure you we can train you to make isk, and survive, and kill people, you've already killed people, and most of your deaths were avoidable.


You need to stop trying to change the game, and change how you are flying.




On a side note, we're recruiting if anyone here is crazy enough to come help me train new guys in pvp and survival. :)
Lianara Dayton
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2015-11-23 10:03:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Lianara Dayton
Avvy wrote:

If isk was easier to get with one character, the likelihood is more people would PLEX so CCP would have to make that subscription cost up somehow. It wouldn't be the cost of the sub, because they still need to make it fairly competitive with other MMOs. So the likelihood would be more in the shop, items that you would want, beyond skins.


Just FYI since I see many people make this mistake: For CCP it's entierly irrelevant if you keep your account active using PLEX or using your credit card. Every month of game time that exists as PLEX was paid for by a player with RL money. CCP doesn't sell PLEX for ISK, they sell PLEX for RL money and the buyer then sell it for ISK. Big difference.

Lianara Dayton, Society for Peace and Unity
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