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Front line Report of Drifter Forces. Urgent request.

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#61 - 2015-11-19 04:05:19 UTC
Specia1 K wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Anslo wrote:
I am universally hated and an evil, vile, sexist, racist individual. Or something like that, I forget what I heard.

More like dumb and incapable capsule pilot, who gives a lot of promises and threats that you never be able to achieve.
Also a forum clown, pretending to have some power, where in fact have little to none.


Like yourself,.


I can't speak to this Anslo fellow (other than the salted beef), but Officer Kim is a respected and accomplished pilot with an exemplary military history.

Ah but I see you are FDU. I'll bet even the drifters leave your corpses floating in space...


Check her record and compare to Anslo and notice that there's little difference in their performance record. Not to mention her attitude in general is usually unbearable (I cannot overlook those moments when she converses like a sane human being). Anslo's a much more tolerable person to hold a conversation with. At least this man does not take himself seriously and seem to believe that everything's a big joke, instead of clenching his buttocks around a shaft the length of a barrel of a 200mm autocannon.

If you think that Kim's so respected, why don't you speak to the other loyalists and other exemplary Caldari officers? In fact, look through her rhetoric in IGS and get back to me about how respected she is.

She's a dog-of-war from a bygone era that can't come to terms that her role model is not a paragon of Caldari values she thought him to be and can't cope with the changing reality of the Caldari State and interstellar politics in general. Not to mention she overreacts to every slight and cannot understand that much of the insults and put-down's she's getting is well and truly deserved, and being 'Strike Commander' does not make her immune to criticism.

Attacking me personally does not change that fact.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2015-11-19 04:10:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Diana Kim wrote:
Specia1 K wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Anslo wrote:
I am universally hated and an evil, vile, sexist, racist individual. Or something like that, I forget what I heard.

More like dumb and incapable capsule pilot, who gives a lot of promises and threats that you never be able to achieve.
Also a forum clown, pretending to have some power, where in fact have little to none.


Like yourself,.


I can't speak to this Anslo fellow (other than the salted beef), but Officer Kim is a respected and accomplished pilot with an exemplary military history.

Ah but I see you are FDU. I'll bet even the drifters leave your corpses floating in space...

I guess I'll have to comment on that. Mr. Egivand was a warpcore stabbed farmer that managed to warp away from me, and he is still rather hurt I called him out for cowardice. He has also have shown himself incapable of analytical thinking, failed to grasp easy concepts of mathematics and was quite often lying about me.


Why yes, because an exploration frigate IN A DATA SITE is actively participating in the Pendulum War at the moment and is not generally fitted to avoid combat rather than look for combat.

You need to learn that there is more to lowsec than combat and a privateer is free to do as he pleases, especially finding secondary and tertiary avenues for income, considering that he is not paid a monthly salary.

Come back to me again when you actually encountered me when I am actually in a plex. Look through my records and you do find that I do get into fights over a plex or five, though I do have a rather abysmal success rate since the start of my commission with the FDU.

And highlight exact points where I lied and come up with actual points of argument instead of asserting that I'm a liar all the time. Your attempts at propaganda (for your own benefit) is transparent enough that even a 1-month cadet worth a damn can see right through it.

Remember, the empty cartridge makes the most noise.

By the way, seems that I really strike a nerve by taking your criticism of Anslo and turning it back at you. Look at the mirror before you start asserting someone else is so-and-so.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#63 - 2015-11-19 04:18:30 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Not to mention she overreacts to every slight and cannot understand that much of the insults and put-down's she's getting is well and truly deserved, and being 'Strike Commander' does not make her immune to criticism.

A loud gallentean loyalist lapdog yelling lies about Caldari officer is not a criticism.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Anslo
Scope Works
#64 - 2015-11-19 05:08:41 UTC
Who are you?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2015-11-19 08:55:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Not to mention she overreacts to every slight and cannot understand that much of the insults and put-down's she's getting is well and truly deserved, and being 'Strike Commander' does not make her immune to criticism.

A loud gallentean loyalist lapdog yelling lies about Caldari officer is not a criticism.


'Privateer'. Look that word up.

If you had been paying attention, I criticise just about everyone. Republic, State, Federation, the works.

Oddly enough I found that I had the least bad things to say about the State (*you* do not count. You are not the State) and the Empire.

And another point. I have yet to see you prove that I had been lying. Show me some actual evidence to refute my statements, with records and the like. Your 'assertions' does not fly in a court and it won't fly here either.

Besides, discounting me, many others also criticised you. Arrendis, Makoto, Pieter, even the usually level-headed Ayallah. What does that say about you?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#66 - 2015-11-19 14:23:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Anyanka Funk
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Specia1 K wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Anslo wrote:
I am universally hated and an evil, vile, sexist, racist individual. Or something like that, I forget what I heard.

More like dumb and incapable capsule pilot, who gives a lot of promises and threats that you never be able to achieve.
Also a forum clown, pretending to have some power, where in fact have little to none.


Like yourself,.


I can't speak to this Anslo fellow (other than the salted beef), but Officer Kim is a respected and accomplished pilot with an exemplary military history.

Ah but I see you are FDU. I'll bet even the drifters leave your corpses floating in space...


Check her record and compare to Anslo and notice that there's little difference in their performance record. Not to mention her attitude in general is usually unbearable (I cannot overlook those moments when she converses like a sane human being). Anslo's a much more tolerable person to hold a conversation with. At least this man does not take himself seriously and seem to believe that everything's a big joke, instead of clenching his buttocks around a shaft the length of a barrel of a 200mm autocannon.

If you think that Kim's so respected, why don't you speak to the other loyalists and other exemplary Caldari officers? In fact, look through her rhetoric in IGS and get back to me about how respected she is.

She's a dog-of-war from a bygone era that can't come to terms that her role model is not a paragon of Caldari values she thought him to be and can't cope with the changing reality of the Caldari State and interstellar politics in general. Not to mention she overreacts to every slight and cannot understand that much of the insults and put-down's she's getting is well and truly deserved, and being 'Strike Commander' does not make her immune to criticism.

Attacking me personally does not change that fact.

Anslo's rhetoric is that of a mentally disabled child. He is actually quite hard to get along with, stuck up, and thinks he knows everything when he barely knows anything.

Diana is actually almost polar opposite of anslo. She is quick and cunning, easy to talk to and tries to dumb things down for stupid gallenteans like anslo when in fact she is really smart.

We all know this from years of talking to her. That's why Diana is more loved than anslo. I just love anslo because we share the same fetishes and I dreamt that he made me his slave one time and that was really hot.
Anslo
Scope Works
#67 - 2015-11-19 17:18:26 UTC
And who are you too?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#68 - 2015-11-19 19:01:33 UTC
Ah, I go away for a little bit and come back to see that for all that has changed in the cluster, nothing has really changed here; self-important bigot beating their chest...or their plastic Thorax...coupled with some try-hard edgy wannabe keeping the IGS classy (or rather far from classy).

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky

Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2015-11-19 19:12:39 UTC
But anslo is really, really cute so I think he's right about everything. Also isn't this thread about Drifters?
Anslo
Scope Works
#70 - 2015-11-19 20:07:40 UTC
Daerrol wrote:
But anslo is really, really cute so I think he's right about everything. Also isn't this thread about Drifters?

It is. Not sure how my contribution made this fly off the rails.

Basically, without a way to either negate or tank through the Drifter's big gun via affordable sub capital ship, you're gonna have a bad time. While capsuleers are invested in the fight now, we're fickle things. Interest will diminish. Yes, it will. Tell yourself that people are better than that, but they aren't at the end of the day. There will be a point where pilots see not much isk being made for what is a guaranteed loss of ship and crew.What happens after that is anyone's guess.

If the brains at Scope Works think of something new, we'll let you all know. But as it stands, it's really not looking good. The sooner we find a subcapital solution, the better.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2015-11-20 06:57:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Anyanka Funk wrote:

Anslo's rhetoric is that of a mentally disabled child. He is actually quite hard to get along with, stuck up, and thinks he knows everything when he barely knows anything.

Diana is actually almost polar opposite of anslo. She is quick and cunning, easy to talk to and tries to dumb things down for stupid gallenteans like anslo when in fact she is really smart.

We all know this from years of talking to her. That's why Diana is more loved than anslo. I just love anslo because we share the same fetishes and I dreamt that he made me his slave one time and that was really hot.



You are just being contrarian for the sake of it. Anslo hardly does rhetoric. His style was to show up and then mock you. He shows up, mocks you, lampshades what you said, makes you look like a damn right idiot and then disappears into the night like some kind of gadfly vigilante. If oneself or one's community becomes the target of his mocking, much of the time, it was well deserved. Moreover, the moment you get all pissy and tries to talk back, only to shut up and then 'huh' about it, he has won. Kinda.

Kim on the other hand likes to hear the sound of her own voice and will use it again and again and again even when she has nothing new to add.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#72 - 2015-11-20 23:32:40 UTC
Elmund? I would like you to stop, review your posts, and realize that Kim is dragging you down to her level. Please stop.


As for Anslo, he's good people. Bit of an ass on occasion, but good people.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#73 - 2015-11-22 13:39:01 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Kim on the other hand likes to hear the sound of her own voice

Oh, and here we see another lie of a tribal, who betrayed his people and became gallentean pet lapdog to bark at Caldari Officers with his ridiculous lies when he fails to find any real bad sides of said Caldari Officer.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#74 - 2015-11-22 14:32:47 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Kim on the other hand likes to hear the sound of her own voice

Oh, and here we see another lie of a tribal, who betrayed his people and became gallentean pet lapdog to bark at Caldari Officers with his ridiculous lies when he fails to find any real bad sides of said Caldari Officer.


Kimmie, you really need to learn to apply the concept of 'less is more'. Seriously, when someone else is telling Elmund he needs to let it go, that means all you have to do to win the encounter is not re-engage. In a public-relations battle, losing with dignity will often turn out to be more of a victory than letting yourself look crass or mean just to score a point.

I know, I know, you're going to tell me I'm a dumb goon who knows nothing, but I want you to consider the fact that propaganda and messaging are decidedly among our strengths. Just think about it some, ok?
Darkon Gatland
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2015-11-22 14:49:19 UTC
While your arguments are most entertaining, the Drifters are still out there killing thousands of the Amarr Navies finest crusaders.

Perhaps we could go back to discussing the threat we face?
Arrendis
TK Corp
#76 - 2015-11-22 14:51:50 UTC
Darkon Gatland wrote:
While your arguments are most entertaining, the Drifters are still out there killing thousands of the Amarr Navies finest crusaders.

Perhaps we could go back to discussing the threat we face?


More concerned about them apparently attacking stations now, personally.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#77 - 2015-11-22 15:18:47 UTC
Arrendis wrote:

Kimmie, you really need to learn to apply the concept of 'less is more'. Seriously, when someone else is telling Elmund he needs to let it go, that means all you have to do to win the encounter is not re-engage. In a public-relations battle, losing with dignity will often turn out to be more of a victory than letting yourself look crass or mean just to score a point.

If I see an enemy, I engage. This is my profession.
Why should I act differently in conversations? My words lie in a line with my actions.

Arrendis wrote:
I know, I know, you're going to tell me I'm a dumb goon who knows nothing, but I want you to consider the fact that propaganda and messaging are decidedly among our strengths. Just think about it some, ok?

Thanks for the comment, Cptn. Obvious.
As for the second part - about your propaganda, it will fail. Because in the State we are smarter than goons.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#78 - 2015-11-22 15:59:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Diana Kim wrote:
Why should I act differently in conversations? My words lie in a line with my actions.

Thanks for the comment, Cptn. Obvious.
As for the second part - about your propaganda, it will fail. Because in the State we are smarter than goons.


a) You're not stupid, and you know that you don't use the same tactics in all situations.
b1) Our propaganda's not aimed at the State, so who cares?
2) That's 'Director Obvious', thanks. ;)
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#79 - 2015-11-23 03:38:01 UTC
Oh, if you think your propaganda is really good, I will have to disappoint you. It is even worse than gallente propaganda. And even you with your goon brain can easily test this.

Lets take two generally disgusting anti-civilization concepts, each of them your and gallente propaganda represent as good one and ask unaffiliated pilots, which one is better.

Ask them, for example, what do the like more, freedom or goons (as a definition of a human quality, not corporation members)?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2015-11-23 04:06:27 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Kim on the other hand likes to hear the sound of her own voice

Oh, and here we see another lie of a tribal, who betrayed his people and became gallentean pet lapdog to bark at Caldari Officers with his ridiculous lies when he fails to find any real bad sides of said Caldari Officer.


Kimmie, you really need to learn to apply the concept of 'less is more'. Seriously, when someone else is telling Elmund he needs to let it go, that means all you have to do to win the encounter is not re-engage. In a public-relations battle, losing with dignity will often turn out to be more of a victory than letting yourself look crass or mean just to score a point.

I know, I know, you're going to tell me I'm a dumb goon who knows nothing, but I want you to consider the fact that propaganda and messaging are decidedly among our strengths. Just think about it some, ok?


I keep replying because I enjoy watching her shoot her mouth off and bare her nature to everyone who has even a smidgen of good-will towards her. If she knew when to shut up and bugger off this wouldn't be even half as fun.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.