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Fastest way to raise Security Status over 0
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Suzanne Khale
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#1 - 2015-11-19 08:48:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Suzanne Khale
Hello,

there is yet a topic from 2012, which is pretty clear:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=627078

I would like anyway to clarify something if possible.

As a rule of thumb, the biggest the ship, the best Sec Status reward. So while roaming in Low Sec asteroids belt, you can meet:

NPC General, Battleship: +0.16%
NPC Commander, Battleship: +0.16%
NPC Clone Soldier Trainer, Cruiser (rare, drops Gold NPC Tag), : +0.3%
NPC Clone Soldier Recruiter, Cruiser (rare, drops Bronze NPC tag): +0.2%

NPC Battlecruiser: +0.075%
NPC Cruiser: +0.035%

You need to wait 5minutes between one relevant kill and another to stack them (if you kill two Generals in 4 minutes you only get one stack).
This way I can improve about 0.5 sec status/day. Pretty slow process. Which are the possible options to make it faster?

- Skill up Fast Talk (1skill/+5% Sec Status bonus per kill, so at lvl 4 you will add +20% per kill)
- ... anything else (Boosters, Implants, ideas)?
Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#2 - 2015-11-19 09:15:36 UTC
You also have Mordus spawns in low sec, rare but valuable. Killing them gives a bit of sec status, and enough cash (once you sell the loot) to buy tags.

You can also run anomalies and DED sites, clearing a 6/10 typically raises my sec status by a full point (and I am trying so hard to get to -10...) and again, it will award a nice amount of ISK to buy tags.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#3 - 2015-11-19 09:49:16 UTC
Trevor Dalech wrote:
(and I am trying so hard to get to -10...)


firing off an ECM Burst module on the Jita IV/4 undock oughta do it.

Use a cheap frigate.

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#4 - 2015-11-19 13:04:47 UTC
ECM burst module?

Please.


The classic way to announce your Neg Tenhood is to go to Jita, fit up a smartbombing Apoc Navy, and let fly when at least 20-30 ships/pods/shuttles are in range.

THAT's how you get to Neg Ten in a hurry.

If you can't afford a Navy Apoc, the classic cheapfit method was to use a Domi.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#5 - 2015-11-19 13:55:22 UTC
Isn't their some white knight who hangs about in Uedama who got to neg 10 in a day once? :D

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Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2015-11-19 14:31:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Only poors rat for sec. Buying tags for sec is the fastest way.

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HoleySheet1
Deep-Fried Prawns with Lemon
#7 - 2015-11-19 16:34:41 UTC
If memory serves, there's a system 2 out from hek named hrojamold or something. There's a legendary something stronghold in system. There's 2 bs's that respawn every 15 mins. In the final room(you only need kill the bs's, the gates are unlocked). Worked well for raising my sec when I ganked hulks before the retribution patch. Gist generals are the name of the bs spawn I believe, there's other bs's but they don't give the same bang for your buck.

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Syeed Ameer Ali
Drunken Beaver Mining
#8 - 2015-11-19 17:22:09 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Only poors rat for sec. Buying tags for sec is the fastest way.


This. Why on earth would you ever raise your sec status any other way? Masochism?

Back before there were tags for sec I once had to raise my sec status from -0.1 to 0 to get in EVE University. I still have PTSD.

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Suzanne Khale
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#9 - 2015-11-19 18:20:19 UTC
Syeed Ameer Ali wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Only poors rat for sec. Buying tags for sec is the fastest way.


This. Why on earth would you ever raise your sec status any other way? Masochism?

Back before there were tags for sec I once had to raise my sec status from -0.1 to 0 to get in EVE University. I still have PTSD.


Tags only work for Sec Status lower than 0. Then you HAVE to farm it, killing rats.
Paranoid Loyd
#10 - 2015-11-19 18:25:46 UTC
Oh that's what you meant. Why the hell would you care about doing that quickly?

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#11 - 2015-11-19 23:21:06 UTC
For over 0, it's hunting down Clone Soldier rats and killing them. Loot the tags for resale, and find your next clone.

The other options are incursions (ugh) or L4 blitzing (ugh). If you need standings for trade purposes, your best bet is to do the horrible L4 blitz approach. (L5s with specialist knowledge, L4s for most)

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#12 - 2015-11-20 00:05:38 UTC
Having a nice big 5.0 sec status can be very misleading to potential predators

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Paranoid Loyd
#13 - 2015-11-20 00:12:05 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Having a nice big 5.0 sec status can be very misleading to potential predators

Agreed, I utilize this, well not me but my low sec alt. However, I would say any positive sec status accomplishes the same in combo with not linking your api so only your losses show up on KBs.

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Fix the Prospect!
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#14 - 2015-11-20 00:31:43 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Having a nice big 5.0 sec status can be very misleading to potential predators

Agreed, I utilize this, well not me but my low sec alt. However, I would say any positive sec status accomplishes the same in combo with not linking your api so only your losses show up on KBs.

Actually kill logs in your api allows your losses and kills to be pulled. I'm pretty sure zkill does both

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Paranoid Loyd
#15 - 2015-11-20 00:40:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Right, I meant as long as your api is not linked, only losses to people who do have their api linked will show up. My noob low sec alt shows an 0-8 record on the KBs but it is 43-12 in reality.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-11-20 01:33:36 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Having a nice big 5.0 sec status can be very misleading to potential predators


I cannot even count how many times I have mistakenly assumed just this and regretted it.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#17 - 2015-11-20 02:58:54 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Right, I meant as long as your api is not linked, only losses to people who do have their api linked will show up. My noob low sec alt shows an 0-8 record on the KBs but it is 43-12 in reality.

What I meant was if their API is linked their losses get pulled and therefore your kills. people are funny tho and upload each kill manually so their losses don't wind up there...

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Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2015-11-20 03:10:00 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Right, I meant as long as your api is not linked, only losses to people who do have their api linked will show up. My noob low sec alt shows an 0-8 record on the KBs but it is 43-12 in reality.

What I meant was if their API is linked their losses get pulled and therefore your kills. people are funny tho and upload each kill manually so their losses don't wind up there...

Gotcha, I guess I've just been lucky not one victim has had their api linked. It is mostly explorers and the occasional ratter that I hunt so that does make sense.

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Fix the Prospect!
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#19 - 2015-11-23 00:27:34 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Having a nice big 5.0 sec status can be very misleading to potential predators


I cannot even count how many times I have mistakenly assumed just this and regretted it.


Confirming this. +4.0 and higher will make people immediately assume you are a harmless carebear, and lunch.

Interestingly, -10.0 makes a lot of people underestimate you too, the 'gankbear' meme is really useful at times. "Oh look, a -10, they can't fly anything except suicide gank catalysts and discophoons - wait WTF, a cyno?"

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Iain Cariaba
#20 - 2015-11-27 10:49:02 UTC
Suzanne Khale wrote:
Hello,

there is yet a topic from 2012, which is pretty clear:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=627078

I would like anyway to clarify something if possible.

As a rule of thumb, the biggest the ship, the best Sec Status reward. So while roaming in Low Sec asteroids belt, you can meet:

NPC General, Battleship: +0.16%
NPC Commander, Battleship: +0.16%
NPC Clone Soldier Trainer, Cruiser (rare, drops Gold NPC Tag), : +0.3%
NPC Clone Soldier Recruiter, Cruiser (rare, drops Bronze NPC tag): +0.2%

NPC Battlecruiser: +0.075%
NPC Cruiser: +0.035%

You need to wait 5minutes between one relevant kill and another to stack them (if you kill two Generals in 4 minutes you only get one stack).
This way I can improve about 0.5 sec status/day. Pretty slow process. Which are the possible options to make it faster?

- Skill up Fast Talk (1skill/+5% Sec Status bonus per kill, so at lvl 4 you will add +20% per kill)
- ... anything else (Boosters, Implants, ideas)?

You can increase it faster by being mobile. Kill 1 battleship in a system, move to next system, repeat. Find yourself a loop that will take you about 15 minutes to run. The sec status tick happens every 15 minutes, and provides the increase for the biggest kill per system.

At least that's how it used to work.
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