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big miker
Frogleap Factories
#81 - 2015-11-18 11:48:41 UTC  |  Edited by: big miker
Oh, i'll gladly fly 2k+ dps battleships Lol

Edit: and kill 35km scram hics quick enough

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#82 - 2015-11-19 05:40:26 UTC
big miker wrote:
Oh, i'll gladly fly 2k+ dps battleships Lol

Edit: and kill 35km scram hics quick enough


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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#83 - 2015-11-19 12:47:18 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
big miker wrote:
Oh, i'll gladly fly 2k+ dps battleships Lol

Edit: and kill 35km scram hics quick enough


4-5k dps vindicatorsStraight


Yikes!

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O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2015-11-19 13:48:06 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
big miker wrote:
Oh, i'll gladly fly 2k+ dps battleships Lol

Edit: and kill 35km scram hics quick enough


4-5k dps vindicatorsStraight


T3 will have a hard time tanking that. Battleship will truely become a slow moving feared powerhouse. Like they should be. They can also fight caps in large numbers. need a few frigs to take down a crusier. Need a few crusiers to take down a BS. Why cant a few BS take down a captial?
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#85 - 2015-11-19 19:40:31 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
big miker wrote:
Oh, i'll gladly fly 2k+ dps battleships Lol

Edit: and kill 35km scram hics quick enough


4-5k dps vindicatorsStraight


T3 will have a hard time tanking that. Battleship will truely become a slow moving feared powerhouse. Like they should be. They can also fight caps in large numbers. need a few frigs to take down a crusier. Need a few crusiers to take down a BS. Why cant a few BS take down a captial?


All you need to do is ask and since you did, Mafia Redux did exactly that with 8 Taloses a while back and even had that on a podcast of theirs where they talked about taking down said carrier.

A few years ago I made the same experiment on SiSi asking for a few battleship pilots to help bring down my Chimera. 11 came, warped and killed it.

So in response, they already can and battleships do not need more firepower.


It is always very astounding that you always choose to not read what I say about ships or weapons and the very clear differences in damage per second - every time.

Let me repeat myself. Battleship guns and cruiser gun may do the very same paper damage per second but it is a very huge difference in how.
Being shot every 3 seconds with 3000hp damage is very different than begin hit by 6000hp damage every 6 seconds and the difference is not the timer tick of the hamsters.

Let's make an example.

You shoot a tach-mare with a 1000dps vigilant. For arguments sake let's say you shoot 3000hp thermal and kinetic in a 50:50 slit using Void M one time.
The resulting damage in a properly fit tach-mare will be somewhere between 700 - 900hp damage.

The tach-mare has you scramed and counter webbed and shoots you with Gleam L and you hypothetical plate-rep vigilant gets hit with 4000hp damage - low EM and some thermal resist make sure of that and you are at 80% armor because the shields didn't "buffer" any damge.

Now the tach-mare turns on the shield booster and swipes away your tiny boat damage and shoots again - you are in structure and the tach-mare pilot is asking herself if your vigilant really was a thread or not.

That 1000dps vigilant goes boom and the 920dps tach-mare wins.

Do you understand now that 1000dps are not equal to 1000dps??

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This is the law of ship progression!

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O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2015-11-19 20:22:01 UTC  |  Edited by: O2 jayjay
elitatwo wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
big miker wrote:
Oh, i'll gladly fly 2k+ dps battleships Lol

Edit: and kill 35km scram hics quick enough


4-5k dps vindicatorsStraight


T3 will have a hard time tanking that. Battleship will truely become a slow moving feared powerhouse. Like they should be. They can also fight caps in large numbers. need a few frigs to take down a crusier. Need a few crusiers to take down a BS. Why cant a few BS take down a captial?


All you need to do is ask and since you did, Mafia Redux did exactly that with 8 Taloses a while back and even had that on a podcast of theirs where they talked about taking down said carrier.

A few years ago I made the same experiment on SiSi asking for a few battleship pilots to help bring down my Chimera. 11 came, warped and killed it.

So in response, they already can and battleships do not need more firepower.


It is always very astounding that you always choose to not read what I say about ships or weapons and the very clear differences in damage per second - every time.

Let me repeat myself. Battleship guns and cruiser gun may do the very same paper damage per second but it is a very huge difference in how.
Being shot every 3 seconds with 3000hp damage is very different than begin hit by 6000hp damage every 6 seconds and the difference is not the timer tick of the hamsters.

Let's make an example.

You shoot a tach-mare with a 1000dps vigilant. For arguments sake let's say you shoot 3000hp thermal and kinetic in a 50:50 slit using Void M one time.
The resulting damage in a properly fit tach-mare will be somewhere between 700 - 900hp damage.

The tach-mare has you scramed and counter webbed and shoots you with Gleam L and you hypothetical plate-rep vigilant gets hit with 4000hp damage - low EM and some thermal resist make sure of that and you are at 80% armor because the shields didn't "buffer" any damge.

Now the tach-mare turns on the shield booster and swipes away your tiny boat damage and shoots again - you are in structure and the tach-mare pilot is asking herself if your vigilant really was a thread or not.

That 1000dps vigilant goes boom and the 920dps tach-mare wins.

Do you understand now that 1000dps are not equal to 1000dps??


Sorry but it shoulnt take 11 BS to kill 1 carrier. 1000 DPS = 1000 DPS. I think youre trying to say alpha? Either way 3 BS should be sucessful in killing a carrier using only BS damage.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#87 - 2015-11-19 21:57:57 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:


Sorry but it shoulnt take 11 BS to kill 1 carrier. 1000 DPS = 1000 DPS. I think youre trying to say alpha? Either way 3 BS should be sucessful in killing a carrier using only BS damage.


They can be.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#88 - 2015-11-19 23:28:03 UTC
O2 jayjay wrote:
Sorry but it shoulnt take 11 BS to kill 1 carrier. 1000 DPS = 1000 DPS. I think youre trying to say alpha? Either way 3 BS should be sucessful in killing a carrier using only BS damage.


No, they should not.

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This is the law of ship progression!

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O2 jayjay
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2015-11-20 00:42:30 UTC  |  Edited by: O2 jayjay
elitatwo wrote:
O2 jayjay wrote:
Sorry but it shoulnt take 11 BS to kill 1 carrier. 1000 DPS = 1000 DPS. I think youre trying to say alpha? Either way 3 BS should be sucessful in killing a carrier using only BS damage.


No, they should not.


Why not? What is your reasoning why 3 t1 tier 2 and up battleships shouldnt be able to kill 1 carrier?