Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Could we get an update on what else the Focus Group has come up with for T3Ds?

As a response to a few off topic posts in the thread though, most AFs function very well in FW lowsec if you exclude T3Ds from the equation. They don't need, nor warrant, a buff in most cases.

The issue is that there is a world outside FW, and t3ds won't probably become non-factor there even if you ban them in small plexes or something.

If you think that the Hecate and Jackdaw are already in line with the meta, then why is it fair to only give the Confessor the same nerfs? I think everyone can agree the Svipul needs an actual nerf to it's ability. What I don't understand is why you don't believe the Confessor needs the same. It's clearly better than the Gallente and Caldari versions, but obviously not as massively overpowered as the Svipul. So surely the conclusion should be to give all T3D the insurance and small plex nerf, whilst giving the Confessor a slight reduction in ability and the Svipul a more severe nerf.

I'm more interested to see what will be done to Assault Frigates, because even with the proposed changes, the Hecate and Jackdaw are still making AFs redundant. If AFs are to maintain the same role, they need to/should be faster than the T3Ds, or they need to be completely rebranded into a different role.

No, it's way less cap dependent than the Hecate, which has less total capacitor and higher cap use for running a repper.

I mean you actually want us to believe that each time we dock the ship repairs cost 30 million ISK.

How about you loose skill points every time you blow up in a t3d and keep them powerful. This way, with great power comes great responsibility, and people would start flying cruisers once again.

Just bringing again my thoughts on the T3 from a producer's point view, since there were some statements, that T3D are too cheap.
Well, perhaps you can tweak that, by adding the need to produce also 3 subsytems (offensive, propulsion and defensive) for the 3TD plus of course the hull. Then you assemble it to the final TD3.
You could use the same relics for reverse engineering as for the T3 cruisers, you just have to select which BPC you want ...as you already have to do now.
By the extra effort in research and production the prices should also raise for the T3D. You can adjust the material need for the BPCs in such way, that you gain the desired raise in prices.

This would be only a minor intervention, which perhaps adresses some concerns about the TD3s.

Hi.

Why don't T3 destroyers cost skills when they die? They should. They are strong enough to warrant people still flying them, despite the potential loss.

TBH, the wole T3 concept has been rather superfluous since its introduction .... if not right out damaging. We have:

- generic T1 stuff - dirt cheap and derp-forgiving, but still good and fulfiling their role
- "T1" pirate and faction variations - much stronger and expensive, often with specific roles/perks (pirate ones esp.)
- specialized T2 stuff - more expensive but still able to be mass produced, excelling at their roles but lacking in the other ares (in theory)

There is enough issues with all those groups to have a lifetime of balancing. And those 3 groups are enough cover any and all EvE needs.

The hell we need T3 for, roughly stomping over everything else around their respective class sizes ? As I mentioned earlier - considering T3 is supposed to be overpowered one or the other way - it's practically unbalancable, as any nerfs getting them in line with the other groups automatically lead to the quesiton: then what is the point of T3 if it's not more powerful ? This sutff is basically an absolute endgame "gear" to borrow nomenclature from other mmos (and to get the point across). But in this game ?

Hi, go find a class 3-6 wormhole, go inside and have a look. Maybe make some isk in an Ibis and tell us how that went.