Ships & Modules

If the Caldari hybrid cruisers get a direct damage bonus (damage mod or rof) alongside their current hybrid range bonuses, I can't see myself ever wanting or needing to fly a Gallente gun cruiser ever again.

Having the same damage, extra range and extra mobility (shield tank + range offsets lesser base speed and agilty) means they'd be too good not to use in comparison to the equivilant armour tanked Gallente ship.

I still think that certain Caldari boats would do better with a range bonus alongside a hybrid tracking bonus, as the tracking bonus is normally of a much bigger benefit to rails as it helps to up their applied dps while also shrinking their minimum ranges.

That is part of a much larger problem. The second bonus on most Gallente Ships doesn't match up to a range bonus on a ship built for close range brawling combined with the slowness of Armor Tanking. CCP has stated that they will look into Armor Tanking vs Shield Tanking in the future.

The Naga currently gets both a range bonus and a Dmg Bonus as is and has actually been successful as a Rail Platform. The thing they need to look at is how to make Gal Bonuses stick for close range Brawls.

But that still doesn't do much for a ship that has very low DPS. It just means it can apply its low more accurately but not effect the field in a meaningful way as a mid range high DPS platform can.

DPS wise Rails are fine, the problem is how many long range gun ships do you fly in PvP without a Dmg Bonus.

This game almost every ship used as a Dmg Dealer no matter the range runs with a DPS Bonus. It is no secret that the Apoc sees the least use of the 3 Amarr Battleships.

If you want DPS on the field with long guns it has to more then then an unbonused ship can provide or else go medium range or switch to a longer range ammo on a Dmg bonused ship since you have the option to provide good DPS with long guns at an acceptable range while switching ammo allows you to still back off and deal dmg.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not against changes to Caldari, I'm just saying that damage bonuses alongside the range ones will obsolete most of the Gallente gunboats under current mechanics.

A Ferox and Moa with damage+range would mean the death of Brutixes and Thoraxes as choices when used in the current systems.

However, even if CCP look at armour plates (new skills -> mass reduction or something) and lower or change the armour rig penalites, I still think a damage+range bonus would mean Caldari gunboats would come out swinging.




That's true, but CCP have said they might be looking at the entire ammo selection, which generally changes lots of things, so you might see higher dps with rails in their proper ranges in the near future anyway.




That's not my quote, that one belongs to Liam Mirren.

Great setup ive used it before with good effect. The moa is fin just as it is slot wise, however some model rework is something we could use.

i like the moa/gila models. i fly the gila, and it would be OP with a 4th launcher.