Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It is not aggression in the game. You keep claiming it is, but now I have to go with Kaarous, you are at this point simply lying. Since it is not aggression, having to gank the bumper due to one's incompetence should come with a penalty...after all you were incompetent.

Old:
1) Carebears cry for better CONCORD protection
2) CCP buffs CONCORD
3) Carebears cry because other people who actually play the game got better CONCORD protection as well and use it against them

New:
1) Carebears cry that bumping should get you flagged somehow so brave carebears can defend themselfs
2) CCP implements some kind of new mechanic to stop the whining
3) Carebears cry because other people who actually play the game use the mechanic in some way they did not intended and carebears keep dying left and right.

Maybe we should just stop trying to prevent them from implementing horrible ideas, I am sure it will be fun.

Yeah, its definitely not agression, but maybe in the age of Space Justice Warriors we can call it microagression. so it would take 1000 bumps to make a milliagression, and a thousand more of those to make a full agression timer. 1,000,000 bumps = 20 minute timer.

I'm sure that would be acceptable.

Really I think there should be weapon mod replacement with sandwich boards and signs on 2x4"s for proclaiming injustice and others with signs saying "its not so bad," "citation needed," and various quotes from the holy books of CODE, Pastafarians etc. Put all the nuts in the same bag.

Give them the right to be obviously self interested spoons, just like everyone else that have had the playing field leveled and now want the pitch raised on their sides with no switching at halftime.

That is a high bar...errr low bar....whatever.

One that you can put in any system that you want to gank out of or visit regularly. You can eliminate the only real window of vulnerability which is taking a gate by having your gankships fit and ready to go, and you can do so in stationless systems.

Just take the gates in a pod reshipping to a cat in a friendly citadel (you don't even have to own it) and head straight to the target protected by tethering on the undock with literally 0% risk to your ship until you are on grid with the target. For fleet ganking, you can also just put one next to each gate and you can avoid warping the fleet around - just undock and a short warp to the bumper with no vulnerability.

And with the 24h warning, you can take down these unrigged citadels if you catch a wardec, again with 0% risk to your assets, but the ability for non-corp members to dock in them means that you can hide behind endless alt corps with different vulnerability windows to keep them hard or impossible to get rid of.

Perhaps all-in-all not an actual buff to ganking, but certainly they will assist with logistics and provide more safety for organized gankers than stations alone, especially in stationless systems.

True, you did not, but you should at least admit that it is a possible outcome. If this change is enough to making ganking effectively extinct, then there is very little doubt in my mind that freighter pilots will likely go back to moving around AFK with ganks only happening when there is enough loot in the freighter to justify an attempt to one shot them off the field.



There you go with the mind reading again. Look, it is possible for CCP to nerf ganking so hard that it becomes effectively impossible. For example, make Concord response times a uniform 2 seconds everywhere in HS. Or simply prevent acts of aggression outside of wardecs in HS. If this were to happen, then it is not at all unreasonable to think people would return to using freighters with auto-piloting—i.e. they are largely AFK.



This is absolutely a nerf to ganking. If you can no longer ping for the people you need then those sudden and unexpected opportunities for play are now effectively gone. And where does this stop? What if a hostile gang comes through our space and somebody wants to try and form a response fleet? Oh, pinging-for-PvP is bad? Where exactly is this line drawn?

Oh, it's a very high bar. You need to be running full speed like a bull in a china shop to clear that one.

You make it seem as if a pilot is doing something sinful if they autopilot at all.

By your logic the only way freighters should be allowed to move is if someone hooks up pedals to the PC and they have to use that to move around at all.

It's not like they are fast, interesting, or all that fun to fly. Moving stuff around is fun, and I can see popping them as fun... But restoring the balance on moving them around is a real concern for some.

Never said it was easy, I said it was possible.

Reckon you can get a video of someone pulling that off? Because frankly, I don't believe you without proof.