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wow... when can we expect these ships?

Not very pretty but here you go.

    Name    Pontifex    Stork    Magus    Bifrost
    Power Grid    55    63    59    58
    CPU    220    280    210    250
    High Slots    5    6    5    6
    Mid Slots    3    6    4    5
    Low Slots    5    2    4    3
    Total Slots    13    14    13    14
    Rig Slots    2    2    2    2
    Calibration    400    400    400    400
    Turret Hardpoints    3    0    3    0
    Launcher Hardpoints    3    5    1    5
    Shield HP    625    950    650    830
    Armor HP    850    625    800    680
    Hull HP    780    680    830    655
    total hp    2255    2255    2280    2165
    Capacitor    750    650    700    600
    Cap Recharge     375000    325000    350000    300000
    cap/s    2    2    2    2
    Max Velocity    330    335    325    345
    Agility    3.4    3.6    3.2    3.3
    Base Mass    1250000    1300000    1150000    1235000
    align time    5.89    6.49    5.1    5.65
    MWD Speed    1744    1730    1802    1836
    Warp Speed    5.5    5.5    5.5    5.5
    Drone Bandwidth    25    0    35    0
    Drone Bay    75    0    60    0
    Target Range    50000    60000    55000    45000
    Scan Resolution    525    475    500    550
    Max Targets    7    7    7    7
    Radar Strength    12    0    0    0
    Ladar Strength    0    0    0    11
    Magnetometric Strength    0    0    13    0
    Gravimetric Strength    0    14    0    0
    Signature Radius    64    69    67    60

Here are a few of the current issues I see allowing the module (as is) in HighSec:
1. In many situations you can't scram a fleet mate since you would get CONCORD response.
2. You can not preemptively attack or scram the CD since it is HighSec and you would get a CONCORD response.
3. It would force solo ships into games of keep away, trying to avoid CDs that are closing in on them. Otherwise that ship has to stop focusing on whatever it was doing and constantly watch for the MJF animation. A CD could cozy up to you for minutes waiting for you to let your guard down then activate their module.

What about the idea of adding a criminal or suspect flag?
1. MJF should not cause a flag for activating the module, since you would put yourself at risk using it on friendlies.
2. If it caused a flag upon jumping a neutral ship it would be too late for many victims.
3. Would require ship fits or fleet comps to change to counter this new module, and this would be a pretty broad and disruptive change just to use 1 new module in highsec.

Edit: Lastly not allowing it in HighSec encourages those that want this new game play to move out of HighSec, which I know is a goal for many.

and some of us see that allowing them in high sec will destroy the game:
i get it you have a problem with incursion fleets, but those are just a very very small part of high sec: mission running, hauling, mining, all of it will be affected by this new mod;

you are always missing the part that this is not a single player game, and that we will always have the n+1 game;
let me ask you something: how many scrams can you fit on your ship? ... do you get the idea?

it's not that your fleet cannot defend against one single destroyer, it's the fact that ppl will bring how many of these they need to do whatever they need to do; and, except for everyone scramming everyone in a fleet, there is no way to defend against this

Okay, Drones with no HP bonus as the primary weapon system on 2 of these bothers me. It gives good dps, but makes permanently removing that DPS fairly easy, and in the case of the MAGUS it does not even have room for 2 full sets (3 light 2 medium).

I would almost prefer unbonused or HP only bonused drones and a damage bonus to the racial turret, so small laser and hybrids respectively. At least that way when the drone are removed the ships can still have a meaningful contribution to the offense. It leaves the ship split weapon systems but strongly encourages the use of weapons in high slots over utility.

Could CCP comment on the removal of the standard HP bonus on a drone boat?

till you realize that these can fit 2-3 links and give the same bonuses as t3's thus its may be cheaper to have links in space.

Except T3s can fit 5-6 links and are slightly tankier, nullified and can cloak. Im going to assume fitting 2-3 links on one of these will mean 0 tank.

I like the fact that these will make the linked "elite pvpers" in lowsec rage when i jump their link boat off their safety gate/station and kill it when theyre in the middle of a fight. Best case scenario is their link boat dies, and then their ship dies too when they lose links.

If they move their link ship out into a safe, then it can combat probed and killed that way. Either way, the risk averse linked pansies will have to actually risk something now instead of relying on 99.9% safe links hugging a station/gate.

links on one of these means it can jump back to station.


also 2 links fit with no fitting mods.

more people will be able to bring links is more what i was getting at.

By fitting 2-3 links, you've also beaten the hull trait of *can fit one warfare link*.

Best analogy i've heard all year lol