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Conman
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#81 - 2015-11-18 06:11:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Conman
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Conman wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Well now you have just gone beyond funny straight to creepy.

Oppression in a video game. The whole concept is ridiculous.


Micro transgression are still transgression and appeasement policy is how we ended up with WW2.

Ok, no back to funny.

WW2? Really.

As for appeasement, that's the exact opposite of what I'm doing. Dumb ideas don't warrant appeasement and this thread is full of stupid.

Sticks and stone and all that stuff. If you are feeling oppressed by anyone, then it's a choice you've made to feel oppressed. Make a different choice and be confident in who you are and not worried about what others might or might not say. Doesn't seem very manly to seek a safe refuge because Grr Women.


I am sure the oppressed make a choice to feel oppressed it has nothing to do with the oppressor. Next are you going to tell me that the victims of raped made the choice to get raped? It is that type of FLAWED logic that leads to the victims of **** getting blamed as opposed to the rapists. I guess when being victimized the victim should just fight harder? If you are not going to be a part of the solution go troll some other thread. Just because you have not been oppressed does not mean that all men everywhere around the world have never been oppressed.

You have yet to even address any of the issues I have brought forth you have simply hurled insults at me time and time again. All I am suggesting is opening a dialogue so we can begin the healing process, what exactly is the problem with that?
Wanda Fayne
#82 - 2015-11-18 06:18:01 UTC
Wow, creepy. Not exactly sure which forum section this belongs inQuestion


Sorry I intruded in your space.
What?

"your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic" -Lan Wang-

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Conman
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#83 - 2015-11-18 06:22:13 UTC
Wanda Fayne wrote:
Wow, creepy. Not exactly sure which forum section this belongs inQuestion


Sorry I intruded in your space.
What?


This has nothing to do with you. I do not know you how could it? This is simply about matriarchy oppressing men. I would never make a general sweeping statement about all woman that would be ridiculous. This is about equal rights for all. There is a Female gamer channel in game I just wanted to provide the same thing for Male gamers. We have many amazing woman in mind games who also support the end of both matriarchy and patriarchy.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#84 - 2015-11-18 06:36:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Conman wrote:
I am sure the oppressed make a choice to feel oppressed it has nothing to do with the oppressor. Next are you going to tell me that the victims of raped made the choice to get raped?

Equating the things that are said to you in a video game to RL **** is so screwed up. You can't really be serious about that.

Your in game oppression by women is equivalent to appeasement leading to WW2 and RL ****?

Get some real perspective.

Addressing the issues isn't really possible here for several reasons:

1. They have nothing to do with Eve (this forum is all for Eve related discussion)
2. A forum environment isn't a place to discuss those issues in any sort of serious way because there are significant limitations to the method of communication we are restricted to here
3. They are very emotive issues where objective discussion goes out the window quickly. Your point about higher male suicide could just as easily be countered for example by the fact that males have a higher success rate (because they generally use more immediately lethal methods) but not necessarily higher attempt rate, nor higher levels of depression (which varies depending on society and culture also), but it isn't really an issue where that can seriously be rationally debated (and is totally not Eve related). I'm also no expert in mental heath issues, which I suspect is true of most of us. Laymen debating with other laymen rarely leads to great insight.

So not countering your views is just a choice because there is no win-win for either of us in that. You'll maintain your narrow view and none of it will be relevant to this forum.
Conman
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#85 - 2015-11-18 06:48:49 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Conman wrote:
I am sure the oppressed make a choice to feel oppressed it has nothing to do with the oppressor. Next are you going to tell me that the victims of raped made the choice to get raped?

Equating the things that are said to you in a video game to RL **** is so screwed up. You can't really be serious about that.

Your in game oppression by women is equivalent to appeasement leading to WW2 and RL ****.

Get some real perspective.

Addressing the issues isn't really possible here for several reasons:

1. They have nothing to do with Eve (this forum is all for Eve related discussion)
2. A forum environment isn't a place to discuss those issues in any sort of serious way because there are significant limitations to the method of communication we are restricted to here
3. They are very emotive issues where objective discussion goes out the window quickly. Your point about higher male suicide could just as easily be countered for example by the fact that males have a higher success rate (because they generally use more immediately lethal methods) but not necessarily higher attempt rate, nor higher levels of depression (which varies depending on society and culture also), but it isn't really an issue where that can seriously be rationally debated (and is totally not Eve related).

So not countering your views is just a choice because there is no win-win for either of us in that. You'll maintain your narrow view and none of it will be relevant to this forum.


If you would like to discuss this on teamspeak my channels are always open. This started out as simply a channel for male gamers and unfortunately or fortunately on the forums it turned into something else. Saying however that "1. They have nothing to do with Eve (this forum is all for Eve related discussion)". Men play EVE so I am not sure how matriarchy which can exist in game is not related to EVE. Thank you for bringing the discussion back on point.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#86 - 2015-11-18 06:57:03 UTC
Conman wrote:
This started out as simply a channel for male gamers and unfortunately or fortunately on the forums it turned into something else.

The first 2 sentences of your OP put it straight on the 'something else' path. Nothing to do with Eve.

High level of female gamers in Eve? You jest. 4% is a high level?

Claiming that males in game need to hide behind female avatars to avoid being harassed by women?

That's the opening of this thread. Factually wrong and straight onto the Grr Women line. You could have just opened a thread saying there's a channel for males and left it at that, without any of the other stupidity.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#87 - 2015-11-18 15:51:46 UTC
Jill Xelitras wrote:
All your base are belong to us !
No sense in getting technical about all this!

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Jonathan Lenoble
Forza Di Colpo
#88 - 2015-11-18 16:10:14 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:

Claiming that males in game need to hide behind female avatars to avoid being harassed by women?

That's the opening of this thread. Factually wrong and straight onto the Grr Women line. You could have just opened a thread saying there's a channel for males and left it at that, without any of the other stupidity.


Why are you so mean ?

Leave Conman alone.

*tears rolling over face*
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#89 - 2015-11-18 16:24:55 UTC
Jonathan Lenoble wrote:
*tears rolling over face*


Lol, man up !

... or rather: man down.

Don't anger the forum gods.

ISD Buldath:

> I Saw, I came, I Frowned, I locked, I posted, and I left.
Globby
Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished
Gimme Da Loot
#90 - 2015-11-18 16:30:15 UTC
i think there should be a way to kiss other men in this game
Kirk Ernaga
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#91 - 2015-11-18 17:08:55 UTC
Some one please tell me that this is a troll thread? I mean seriously men outnumber women in eve like 10:1, in fact I can count on 2 hands how many females I've encountered playing eve.
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#92 - 2015-11-18 17:22:57 UTC
Kirk Ernaga wrote:
Some one please tell me that this is a troll thread? I mean seriously men outnumber women in eve like 10:1, in fact I can count on 2 hands how many females I've encountered playing eve.


You can count to 2 ... aaaaa .... mazing

Don't anger the forum gods.

ISD Buldath:

> I Saw, I came, I Frowned, I locked, I posted, and I left.
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2015-11-18 17:26:27 UTC
I identify as a bump-kin (pronouns bump/bumps/bumpself), so not even human. Is Bump still allowed in your safe space?

And the 1%ers outnumber everybody else by like 20:1 or something rediculous, doesn't mean we aren't oppressed by them.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Conman
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#94 - 2015-11-18 17:42:33 UTC
Jonathan Lenoble wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:

Claiming that males in game need to hide behind female avatars to avoid being harassed by women?

That's the opening of this thread. Factually wrong and straight onto the Grr Women line. You could have just opened a thread saying there's a channel for males and left it at that, without any of the other stupidity.


Why are you so mean ?

Leave Conman alone.

*tears rolling over face*


Thank you for understanding the seriousness of this thread. Cyber bullies need to be stopped.
Lord Molly
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#95 - 2015-11-24 23:08:58 UTC
Well it was good to see all the lads at eve london this weekend just gone

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#96 - 2015-11-25 00:02:29 UTC
Big smileBig smileBig smile

This has been my favorite thread in ages. One that actually got me to post! A rare feat these days.
Kaely Tanniss
The Conference Council
The Conference
#97 - 2015-11-25 09:51:52 UTC
I'm still watching you....men. Blink

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
lmmortalist
lmmortality Associates
#98 - 2015-11-25 10:11:53 UTC
Kirk Ernaga wrote:
Some one please tell me that this is a troll thread? I mean seriously men outnumber women in eve like 10:1, in fact I can count on 2 hands how many females I've encountered playing eve.


You are the one here that must be trolling. I literally need to carry a stick with me irl for self-defence since the women are coming on to me on the streets from every direction. The same goes on in Eve as well, which is the very reason for me using the 'block' feature so often.
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#99 - 2015-11-25 16:18:30 UTC
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