Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There has already been a standing Arena feature in the game for years, it's called RvB. Recent reports of it beginning to shut down show just how much demand there is for something like that these days.

There's no need to duplicate it as a hardcoded feature.

Well, you are wrong about so many things, and almost all of it off topic, but let's address a few...

I don't like predatory PvP that encourages a culture of victimization. While true that I don't have much of a combat record, that's mostly because since killboards that use API became all but obligitory I have been far less active due to the constraints of family time, keeping a job, and general demeanor. One thing has nothing to do with the other. I never sought out killmails, don't participate in third party resources, and rarely pursue a fight to the death. My playstyle does not lend me to mounting points on my ship and I just don't give a damn if someone get away.

I don't want cloaks nerfed, I want the potential for afk cloaked camping balanced so that active effort in countering that threat trumps passive trivial effort of fitting a ship with a cloak and rendering that space less valuable than high sec mission running indefinitely and without counter. Stealth gameplay is good. Attacking from stealth with no counter is unbalanced. Providing a way to hunt cloaked ships in an equivalent to cov-ops vessel with a system that relies on eliminating false positives makes afk cloaking risky without rendering other uses of cloaks instantly worthless.

I don't know what you are on about with the PvP roams, unless you mean not supporting solo roamers being immune to environmental factors so they can point and neut some guy in an anomaly and let the rats do his killing for him. Fit for the space you intend to operate in, and it should not be an issue. I can't imagine what other way you think I care about PvP roamers.

I have not proposed a single buff to my own playstyle. I am not against ganking, not against hunting PVE, or any other similar activity. Those things are meant to drive conflict. I am against using loopholes and unbalanced gimmicks to circumvent intended gameplay with balanced risks and fun for all sides while calling your opponents risk adverse and crying that no one wants to die for your amusement.

I am in fact a PvE focused pilot who unashamedly cares little for the stilted PvP aspects of the game. I do know what I am talking about, I just don't worship it like a holy cow and prefer a balanced view in favor of mental gymnastics intended to blame victims for the crimes of their abusers.

I doubt seriously that battle arenas would negatively impact the game, especially if the functioning of the arena relied on in game resources to function. In fact it could become an overall isk sink in the game while providing a stronger need for resource harvesting activity, in turn providing more targets for hunters and driving more content from defense fleets. Shutting down rival arenas, stealing prize pools, and much more can all be sparked by their addition if developed correctly.

Edit: Sorry baltec, this was more of a reply to the post above yours. I disagree with your premise, but you have said little against my character because of it.

Emergent isn't a synonym for good, balanced or fun. It can be all of those things, but if you happen to have the goal of making an enjoyable game, you have to be willing to respond appropriately to the emergent factors as they arise. You don't have to just toss up your hands and say "its emergent, and therefore holy and untouchable", especially when the bulk of the emergent factors comes from a relatively small segment of the playerbase renowned for it's toxicity.


Creating a new area with different rules does not change anything about the current environment or the emergent qualities that have risen from it. You would still get your emergent gameplay, Just like they did when they introduced wormholes. The majority of those knee-jerking against this are just afraid that in an area with more controls they will have less opportunity to be asshats

Repeating myself, since you seem to have missed it.

I have personally never done higher than a level two mission. You giving advice about PvP is like me giving advice about how to run level 4s. It just makes you look ridiculous.

No one has yet to say what the benefit arena combat would bring to EVE. Onus is on you to prove the viability of a new idea. Get to it.

You want an arena? Make one. Advertise, find a system, set up a safe and warp people to it. This is a sandbox, remember? Don't ask the game to create something that you can already create on your own.

like what sort of rules do you want?

Yet again, you can create arenas in the game today. What is stopping you from doing it now?

Reposting what I posted earlier, since you flat-out ignored it. You want an arena? Make one. Advertise, find a system, set up a safe and warp people to it. This is a sandbox, remember? Don't ask the game to create something that you can already create on your own.