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Ceriu Cielo
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-11-17 01:48:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Ceriu Cielo
Wouldn't it be great if you could easily tell which crystals are good and which crystals are junk?


Anybody who does PVE with lasers may have this same frustration that I have in terms of identifying damaged crystals when it comes time to replace them with new ones. Here of some of the pain points I have personally struggled with.


  • You can only identify damage done to your crystals through the fitting window.



  • If you remove these crystals, and then refit them, it does not show any damage at all until you undock and redock.



  • There is currently no other "convenient" method to identifying the damage, like 'show info', or seeing it on mouse-over.



  • Most people I play with have told me when they notice they have crystals in with different damage percentages, rather than just trash the ones that are the most damaged, they just dump them all and buy new ones, mostly out of just being "particular".



  • Couple all of this with having a mess of crystals in your inventory that when you unfit a damaged one, good luck on finding the damaged one out of the ones you already have. Unless you have purchased containers and have your stuff neatly separated, which seems to be the only way to counter this.


I dont seem to be the only one who thinks it should be looked into.

What I am suggesting is that there be made available, other means to show crystal damage, which ultimately, the implementation style would be up to CCP. But an idea I had was to show a percentage in red on the item in inventory so you wouldnt have to fit it, mouse over, right click 'show info' etc. Here is an example of what I mean that I drew up quickly in paint, lol.

Crystal damage example

It would be nice if this could be looked into by CCP and some discussion could be held on the matter. If it is looked at by CCP I appreciate your time in the matter and hope there might be some consideration to optimize the way crystal damage is presented to players.

Thank You,
Ceriu Cielo
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DrAzalith
Anoikis Narcotics Laboratory
#2 - 2015-11-17 01:50:07 UTC
+1
SoonerLater Sasen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-11-17 01:54:59 UTC
+1
Petulka89
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-11-17 01:55:41 UTC
+1
Lokto Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-11-17 01:56:11 UTC
I second that motion
Elohellspawn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-11-17 01:56:14 UTC
+1
Bobb Bobbington
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#7 - 2015-11-17 02:32:41 UTC
Hhhmmmmmmm.... All posters above have 0 likes and said exactly the same thing within 8 minutes of each other (except for Lokto)...

Pretty sure alt army....

On the idea itself, I could see it as a useful QoL improvement.

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Ceriu Cielo
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-11-17 02:39:03 UTC
Not an alt army. I brought it up to my corp and alliance mates and showed them the link. We discussed the idea as I was posting it, and I said Id appreciate it if they believed in it to hop on and show their support. I apologize if it looks sketchy, but that's what happened.
DrAzalith
Anoikis Narcotics Laboratory
#9 - 2015-11-17 02:42:59 UTC  |  Edited by: DrAzalith
holy **** bobs right army of alts roll out!!!!

gg Bob gg
Sinpwnz0rz
Enemy of Man
Cynosural Field Theory.
#10 - 2015-11-17 02:54:01 UTC
Perhaps some type of semi-transparent overlay like a clock going around or a bar filling up. Or because they're crystals they can FADE darker and darker shades. And a little sparkle when they're at 100% to make them a different texture entirely than 99.99%.

+1 tho.


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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-11-17 03:17:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5677470#post5677470


+1 for OP post anyway

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#12 - 2015-11-17 05:47:33 UTC
The Sanshas and I appreciate this.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#13 - 2015-11-17 06:45:08 UTC
yeah would be awesome. i have a container full with half used laser crystals in most of my bases. as a absolute minimum crystal damage should be shown on the tooltip so you can sort out good from bad in your hangar without the requirement to fit them.

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Netan MalDoran
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Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2015-11-17 06:57:35 UTC
I dont even USE lasers, and +1

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#15 - 2015-11-17 06:58:57 UTC
+1 for QoL

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#16 - 2015-11-17 08:44:11 UTC
Needs to happen. Not an alt...swearsies.

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Aivlis Eldelbar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-11-17 11:23:17 UTC
While I lol'd at the alt army +1'ing this, this is a valid idea.
Nyalnara
Marauder Initiative
#18 - 2015-11-17 12:26:08 UTC
Sinpwnz0rz wrote:
Or because they're crystals they can FADE darker and darker shades.


Nope. Because all the red cristals may at one point look the exact same. Ok for a gauge or something like that, though.

+1.

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Ceriu Cielo
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-11-18 23:42:31 UTC
Aivlis Eldelbar wrote:
While I lol'd at the alt army +1'ing this, this is a valid idea.


Maybe I'm not understanding what the definition of an "alt" is but I understand it as alternate accounts all played by one player. Someone felt the same way you did and I said "While I was writing up the post I was discussing it in TeamSpeak with my alliance members and asked them if they believed in the suggestion to stop on by and support it" I let them know when it went live and they did just that. I know it might "look" like an "alt army" but it's simply not the case. I just feel implored to defend myself against something that I know is not true or suggests that I would behave in such a way to create a facade of support for myself and my suggestion. If you're just kidding then I apologize, if not, I don't know what else to say haha.

I'm really relieved I'm not the only one that seems to have these feelings about Amarr crystal damage and it's really awesome that a couple people came through to support the idea or agree! Team Amarr Baby!

Now I know its not like hundreds of people have all gotten behind this because it's not a game breaking issue and I suppose it all boils down to a "quality of life" matter for most of us Amarr players. So I guess it brings a question to my mind of, if in fact something would seem to improve quality of life or a suggestion is an incredibly good idea, how much support or requests for such an improvement would it take to begin or warrant a discussion from CCP just out of curiosity? I guess if I feel that strongly about it should I start some type of campaign for it? Lol (just curious)

Thank you all for your time!

Ceriu Cielo
Crystal Damage QoL CEO
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#20 - 2015-11-20 16:26:59 UTC
an 'alt' is an 'alternate character' from the main (you can only have 1 main) can either be on the same or different account
I have 5 chars, of whom this would be a QoL for the main + 2 alts
the only ways you could really get this into the game would be to file bug reports over fitting not showing damage on crystals when docked until CCP hate you (don't advise this) or let this campaign gather momentum.
Sooner or later more people will approve of this - (have you tried linking this in an amarr trade hub and/or provi-block?)

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
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