Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That is, exactly, what I was envisioning. I won't force a fitting to be used, but the rest it's perfect. add an entry fee option, add some taxing to it... and that's it. Maybe the winner gets a % of the entry fee, but that's all.

It has so many uses... but at the same time, it only works as an expensive sport, since there are no artificial rewards or incentives.

You mean you don't like it, or you don't want other who like arenas to use them? Because all your arguments point to the latter, yet you say you want the former. If that's really what you want, stop arguing against this proposal, because nobody will force you to use it. You will still be able to enjoy all the excitement and fun of roaming PvP with the thousands of like minded players.



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So you say you rather prefer people leaving the server ENTIRELY when dueling and training instead of implementing this? You contradict yourself. If they're on SiSi they're not on TQ, theyre not moving the economy, and they're not interacting at all with the sandbox.

We would be forced to use it because it will suck all the pvp into it like arenas have done in every single game they have ever been added to. Want instant, hassle free, instanced fair fights? Go play one of the hundreds of other games that give you that and let us have the one game that requires you to go hunting.

No they wont keep on building sandcastles, that's the problem. They will pay arenas, get bored and then leave for the next instant gratification clone. EVE offers something unique, fun and long term in a world of 2 month wonders

Came back to a thread that should have been over at birth expecting infinite stupidity.

Left sated.

Or matchmaker methods would fail horribly giving crap pops and they leave going this sucks. Not even picking on CCP....many have failed at a consistently good matchmaker setup. All give out those wtf match ups I have seen over many years. Have to, other option is a horrendously bad pop rate on slow times or if players being too picky.

Dealt with this in WoT for a little over a year. Thing was...loss was not permanent. Just some silver to fix up the tank if getting the short of the stick in a jacked up match. Until upper tiers you didn't go broke in the process. Upper tiers...yeah they get pricey to buff out the dents lol. Did anyway when I left. I was a wallet warrior and had some gold tanks to fix that issue though. Figured wth....I need the money to fix my tier 9 and devs got to feed their families once in a while.

Eve with matchmaker having a bad night.....its millions upon millions just gone.

We have poster on the wall where I work. It shows a picture of a guy watching another guy working and writing on a note pad. The caption is as follows: "I have no idea what you are doing, but my manual says you are doing it wrong."

Maybe the guy on the poster is named Mike. **shrugs**

You are a self-proclaimed PvE-er with zero record of PvP-ing. You have no idea what you are talking about. EVE has been one of the top rated MMOs for over a decade specifically because it is different. It allows anyone to attack anyone anywhere. It is harsh, cold, and unforgiving. For those of us who realize that, it's why we have supported EVE for so long.

Your ideas, Mike (from nerfing cloaks to nerfing PvP roams to buffing your risk free playstyle) are pointedly against what has made EVE successful for so long. Very little of what you say is based in rational thought.

Stop treating EVE like just another MMO. Being "not another MMO" is the only advantage EVE has going for it. Hopefully one day you realize that.

Well, you are wrong about so many things, and almost all of it off topic, but let's address a few...

I don't like predatory PvP that encourages a culture of victimization. While true that I don't have much of a combat record, that's mostly because since killboards that use API became all but obligitory I have been far less active due to the constraints of family time, keeping a job, and general demeanor. One thing has nothing to do with the other. I never sought out killmails, don't participate in third party resources, and rarely pursue a fight to the death. My playstyle does not lend me to mounting points on my ship and I just don't give a damn if someone get away.

I don't want cloaks nerfed, I want the potential for afk cloaked camping balanced so that active effort in countering that threat trumps passive trivial effort of fitting a ship with a cloak and rendering that space less valuable than high sec mission running indefinitely and without counter. Stealth gameplay is good. Attacking from stealth with no counter is unbalanced. Providing a way to hunt cloaked ships in an equivalent to cov-ops vessel with a system that relies on eliminating false positives makes afk cloaking risky without rendering other uses of cloaks instantly worthless.

I don't know what you are on about with the PvP roams, unless you mean not supporting solo roamers being immune to environmental factors so they can point and neut some guy in an anomaly and let the rats do his killing for him. Fit for the space you intend to operate in, and it should not be an issue. I can't imagine what other way you think I care about PvP roamers.

I have not proposed a single buff to my own playstyle. I am not against ganking, not against hunting PVE, or any other similar activity. Those things are meant to drive conflict. I am against using loopholes and unbalanced gimmicks to circumvent intended gameplay with balanced risks and fun for all sides while calling your opponents risk adverse and crying that no one wants to die for your amusement.

I am in fact a PvE focused pilot who unashamedly cares little for the stilted PvP aspects of the game. I do know what I am talking about, I just don't worship it like a holy cow and prefer a balanced view in favor of mental gymnastics intended to blame victims for the crimes of their abusers.

I doubt seriously that battle arenas would negatively impact the game, especially if the functioning of the arena relied on in game resources to function. In fact it could become an overall isk sink in the game while providing a stronger need for resource harvesting activity, in turn providing more targets for hunters and driving more content from defense fleets. Shutting down rival arenas, stealing prize pools, and much more can all be sparked by their addition if developed correctly.

Edit: Sorry baltec, this was more of a reply to the post above yours. I disagree with your premise, but you have said little against my character because of it.

That's a somewhat more intelligent argument against the concept, though I suspect RvB has other issues beyond lack of interest.