Ships & Modules

Since the recent hybrid changes I have discovered the Moa to be an excellent hybrid boat with some scary abilities.
Now what I and a lot of other people agree on is that the Moa is lacking a 5th medium slot to the mix, which in I would happly trade for the one extra utility highslot.

Moa new:

5 Turret and 5 high slots
5 medium slots
4 low slots

Moa now:

6 high slots with 5 turret hardpoints and 2 missile slots
4 medium slots
4 low slots

Bonus need no change
Well maybe a little bit of powergrid wouldn't hurt.

Fiited with heavy neutron blaster II's and void this unloved boat may surprise you.
Maybe she gets a new ship model as well, but we don't want to strain your art department too much.

I think they should ditch the Resist Bonus and shift it to a Damage Bonus so that when you fit it with Rails it doesn't tickle.

Giving it an extra mid in place of the utility high that see's little practical use would be great. Being able to put an in Invuln would allow it to keep it's Shield Tanking potential and give it a much needed Dmg buff to it's rails. The extra Blaster Damage and even extra room for a web would not hurt ether.

Also the speed could use a look. The Hurricane is slightly faster even without Nano's I mean come on it is a damn class larger then the Moa. I know Minmatar but that is just a tiny bit ridiculous.

Base Speed Max Skill

Moa

205m/s
1273m/s MWD

Hurricane

206m/s
1311m/s MWD

And 2 extra slots for Nano's... I think speed is something a Sniper Cruiser would want, well that and Dmg.

Would 10m2 Extra Drone Bay / BW on top be to much to ask for?

As having flown the Moa, I agree it needs some love as well as its variants. I fly a Gila sometimes and I think a 4th launcher would be a great improvement or the option to use guns.

the ship is fine.
i like the looks of the hull as well.
#1 t1 cruiser in my book for station games.

LOL @ ****** asking for an extra launcher on the gila in a moa thread.

It is not an utility high slot ,but a salvager slot as there is no pg to fit anything other in it.
This goes for the other caldari/gallente ships with useless highslots.

"Making it lose its utility slot makes worse, It needs a little bit more base speed and it's good (other than hybrids still not being where they need to be)."
dumby tell us what you usually put into that slot

So the 1 new mid would be way better as web >>> small neut everytime

Here's two things to realise.

- If you give Caldari a full damage bonus where does that leave Gallente? Answer; it won't happen.
- It'll never get a 5th midslot unless it loses its resist bonus, balance and all that

Result of that is if you do give it a 5th mid it loses tank, which it doesn't make up for because it won't get massively increased dps, all in the name of getting a web? That's just not logical. So, if you stay realistic (rather than in illogical lalaland) all you really need is a bit more speed and some more iteration on hybrids. The ship itself is fine.

Where they are currently. Naga gets a dmg bonus and it works out fine.

I am fine with that. It's rail dmg is minimal as is and could use a buff.

Then put an Invuln on it and go webless as you have shown you are perfectly willing to do. Get most of your tank and a 25% Dmg increase which is a large amount.

Says the person who posted a Blaster fit on a rail boat.

All the "Iteration" in the word is not going to help a Rail Boat be used as a Rail Boat if it has pathetic Dmg.

5th Mid is fine as is a Hybrid Dmg Bonus. It will make it just as good a Blaster Boat and a much, much better range boat as it is supposed to be. If this hurts Gallente then perhaps their Cruisers need a second look.

I will stay in lalala land because that is the only place a Viable Rail Moa will ever come too.

Look at them all you want but without a dmg bonus their DPS will be lol to an almost useless point.

Sure, Cruisers in general could use a buff, 500 DPS on a short range Brawl Fit Cruiser is not a bad start.

Nope in favor of a mid. Throw a tracking computer, an Invuln, Point, Painter, Sebo, Cap Booster or anything else that you think would boost the ships effectiveness. An Invuln alone will get most of your EHP back while your Rails are actually useful on the field.

Yet gaining a better Range DPS mix with a TC or craming on more tank with that mid will more then mitigate that. As for their being little use for Rails taking positive steps with the ships that use them is a great factor in balance, Speed/Agility to hold range and Dmg are primary concerns that can be handled on the the ship it's self.

I dont understand why would it loose its tank if 1 high slot moved to 1 mid.


500dps hmm so similar like a rupture? hmm that is heresy nothing should come close to winmatar.
Btw as it is mainly railboat yes rail cause caldari is longrange --> aka rail for hybrids, the resist bonus isnt rly worthy ,only if it can fit a huge tank + usual rail fit , but it cant due to too few med slots too low pg.

What I see that you want to hinder everything which tries to bring back/fix hybrid ships into competitive useable form vs projectile ships.

Yep rails needs a boost/fix.
Still moa and possibly most of the other hybrid ships needs to be fixed.
1 useless unfittable high slot doesnt help it anyway no matter if it is fitted for close range blasters or long range rails.