Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So big question, destroyer or frigate sized? I think to house the capabilities in question a destroyer, but whatever.

I say two options, both allow for a single fleet assist booster w/ a ship role bonus for that module. This forces you to really pick your option wisely for max effectiveness. It also will not undermine Orcas or Roquals.

4 High Slots, 2 turrets or 2 launchers
3 Mid Slots
3 Low Slots
0 Drone Bay/M-Bits

Or

2 High Slots, 0 turrets or 0 launchers
3 Mid Slots
3 Low Slots
40 Drone Bay/25 M-Bits[/quote]


The more I think about i, the more I think that it has to be destroyer sized. They can also fit into the c-13 shattered wormholes and get rid of the complaints about it being a frigate. This will also allow it to have a larger ore hold for hauling purposes and the larger drone bay and bandwith requirements for a more defensive role as well.

After doing a little more research, both of the "boosting" industrial ships are named after whales as well as the bowhead, being named after the bowhead whale..... The smallest whale is the Dwarf Sperm Whale, but that name isn't quite fitting for a ship like this. Another of the smallest whales is the Northern Minke whale. Therefore I think it fitting to possibly rename the vessel to "Minke", if CCP is sticking with this naming system for the ORE ships able to give boosts? I originally suggested the name to be after a famous explorer for the exploration frigate component. I can see it going either way.

Any other suggestions?

It'll still step on the toes of the mining boosting ships due to how cheap and agile it is.


I don't really like the idea of a boosting ship that small, but howabout introducing a tech 2 rookie ship style--a type of ship which helps introduce low-skilled pilots to modules with higher skill prerequisites.

This one could have a tech 1 frigate layout with a role bonus lowering the requirements of fitting ganglinks to having the pre-specialized skill at level 3, and then further removing the bonus these links would get from the Warfare Link Specialist skill. On top of that, instead of skill bonuses, they would have role bonuses that give them a skill level 3 equivalent bonus. This way it allows pilots to get into fleet boosting much earlier in their EVE career, offering not only a lower skill entry point but also making sure they have moderately decent boosting potential. But then it doesn't scale very well, ensuring that no matter how high their skills are their boosts will always be a lot weaker in the frigate than in a proper boosting ship (like a combat battlecruiser).

Attack frigates that use three large turrets.

Precisely. Designed for the purpose of providing added rat/solo pvp defense in the c-13 shattered wh's. A single fleet boost with an ample drone bay for defensive support. The ship will have to be on grid to provide the boosts. I think it shouldn't be able to cloak but rather be d-scan immune. Slower to warp and much less nimble than the ships it's providing boosts/defense for. A decently sized ore hold for some hauling capabilities. Skills should be an investment to make in order to fly. Destroyer 5, leadership skills, much like the Orca to sit in this hull.

Could the new command destroyers potentially fill this role?

They cannot. They only provide a PW reduction to the specific combat related boosters, not mining foreman links.

Never seen the pics. Sounds interesting enough. Anyone know where to find them and link them?

I based these off the command destroyer bonuses, but applied them to a new expedition frigate.

So let's say....

3 High Slots - 0/0 Turrets/Launchers
4 Medium Slots
3 Low Slots
2 Rig Slots
400 Calibration Points

900 Shield HP
EM 60%
Exp 10%
Kin 25%
The 35%
750 Armor HP
EM 0%
Exp 50%
Kin 40%
The 20%
750 Hull HP
EM 0%
Exp 0%
Kin 00%
The 0%

Drone Capacity: 40m3
Drone Bandwidth: 25 Mbit/sec
22,000m Targeting Range
350m/sec Max Velocity

ORE Frigate bonuses (per-level)
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage
4% bonus to all shield resists

Expedition Frigate bonuses (per-level)
3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman links
4000m3 bonus to ore bay capacity

Role bonuses:
95% Reduction to power grid requirements for mining foreman links
50% Reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
- Cloak reactivation delay and targeting delay reduced to 5 seconds
- No penalty to ship max velocity when using Cloaking Devices
- Can use Mining Foreman Links
- Can only equip 1 Mining Foreman Link

Wow! Nice work you did there. I agree with either a cloak with no reduction in speed or d-scan immunity, but a probing bonus would be pretty cool to have also... But I can live without it.

I edited it, slight buff, but mind you combat frigates should be in the fleet comp for true defensive actions.

Also, keep in mind that with skills that range goes up substantially.