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Plex4 Good: French Red Cross Idea

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Commander A9
This Was The Way
#1 - 2015-11-15 22:45:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander A9
Alright, fellas.

We all know what's going on in Paris, and I don't want to feel powerless in the wake of this disaster.

So what are the chances that we might encourage CCP to start a Plex4Good campaign to donate to the French Red Cross?

They're already on the scene doing their best to help.

So perhaps we can do the same?

http://www.ifrc.org/en/news-and-media/news-stories/europe-central-asia/france/in-pictures-paris-attacks/

And for those who don't know what Plex4Good is, in the past, during a major natural disaster, CCP would sometimes host a "Plex4Good" drive where you would donate a PLEX to a "CCP Plex4Good" character. In return, you'd get an in-game character t-shirt per PLEX donated.

Meanwhile, CCP would donate $15 per PLEX to the Icelandic Red Cross. We've been able to raise over $100,000 both times we've done it as I recall.

Perhaps this time, though, with the ship skins becoming more popular, the reward can be a ship skin in the Sisters of EVE colors or the French flag?

Recommendations:

-enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters)

-add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot)

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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
#2 - 2015-11-15 22:55:47 UTC
Quote:
... and I don't want to feel powerless in the wake of this disaster.

What prevents you from directly donating to the French Red Cross?

Proposal: >>> New Inventory / Item Hangar <<<
Commander A9
This Was The Way
#3 - 2015-11-15 22:57:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander A9
Nothing.

But I figured I'd share my ideas with the rest of the EVE community to see who else has ideas on the matter.

We've all banded together in the wake of tragedies before. How about we do it once again?

Recommendations:

-enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters)

-add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot)

-STOP NERFING EVERYTHING!

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Jon Ultra
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#4 - 2015-11-15 22:58:47 UTC
You can donate yourself and that's one person. If you coordinate a group to donate and encourage others to donate then its the 'force multiplier' we all want in fleet.
Commander A9
This Was The Way
#5 - 2015-11-15 23:02:06 UTC
Exactly!

Recommendations:

-enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters)

-add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot)

-STOP NERFING EVERYTHING!

Join Live Events!
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
#6 - 2015-11-15 23:07:44 UTC
Quote:
We've all banded together in the wake of tragedies before. How about we do it once again?

As far as i know (and i might be wrong here) PLEX4GOOD campaigns were only started to help the victims of natural disasters like earthquakes or tsunamis, not terrorist attacks.

But i wish you best of luck with your effort.

Proposal: >>> New Inventory / Item Hangar <<<
Commander A9
This Was The Way
#7 - 2015-11-15 23:11:00 UTC
Yeah, I know. It's perhaps a political statement, but...

I'm sure we've got some EVE players in France affected by this.

Recommendations:

-enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters)

-add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot)

-STOP NERFING EVERYTHING!

Join Live Events!
Jenshae Chiroptera
#8 - 2015-11-15 23:22:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Lebanon, Russia and Iraq are quickly forgotten?
How about Ethopia that are facing a food crisis with Sudanese refugees and draught?
How about most of the third world that has starving people all the time?

Have to love sensationalised corporate media. Roll
Edit: Stumbled across a perfect image. Big smile

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#9 - 2015-11-15 23:30:46 UTC
What happened in Paris is very tragic and its seriousness isn't diminished just because there are other man-made tragedies and drastic situations that people find themselves in.

At the same time, I don't personally think this is a PLEX4GOOD situation. The suffering is real, but so is the ability to deal with it and recover.
Jared Khanar
#10 - 2015-11-15 23:33:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jared Khanar
Damjan Fox wrote:
Quote:
... and I don't want to feel powerless in the wake of this disaster.

What prevents you from directly donating to the French Red Cross?


But ... but then there would be no spike in plex price + the related cash-in on that.
Or no presents... How can you think of doing something good or selfless without getting some ... presents Twisted

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Shitposting Forum Alt
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-11-16 00:34:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Shitposting Forum Alt
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Lebanon, Russia and Iraq are quickly forgotten?
How about Ethopia that are facing a food crisis with Sudanese refugees and draught?
How about most of the third world that has starving people all the time?

Have to love sensationalised corporate media. Roll
Edit: Stumbled across a perfect image. Big smile

What's with you guys, mostly on the left, politicizing the deaths of innocent people? 150 people have died and the first thought from some of you is to complain about other conflicts, or whine about Islamophobia, or take some cheap shots at Israel. How about focusing on the people like you and I that were just slaughtered by the dozens at a concert hall?

Roll
Lachra
Lachra Corporation
#12 - 2015-11-16 02:19:44 UTC
CCP isn't a charity organisation. If they devoted resources toward a PLEX4Good for every global crisis, their development teams would need to become aid workers. Donate your money directly to the French Red Cross, through the proper channels. Everyone here is aware of what is happening out in the world; an in-game gesture like PLEX4Good is superfluous: the people who will donate will donate and vice-versa.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#13 - 2015-11-16 02:54:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Commander A9 wrote:

And for those who don't know what Plex4Good is, in the past, during a major natural disaster,
That pretty much sums it up.

Natural, not political. Game companies, especially multi-national MMOs, have no place in picking and choosing which geopolitical causes to push an agenda on.

'nuff said.

Mr Epeen Cool
Axion Tetraquark
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-11-16 04:13:43 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:

How about most of the third world that has starving people all the time?



maybe they should learn to farm instead of depending on handouts. at least then they'd have something to do besides make 12-15 children...
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#15 - 2015-11-16 05:13:05 UTC
Axion Tetraquark wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:

How about most of the third world that has starving people all the time?



maybe they should learn to farm instead of depending on handouts. at least then they'd have something to do besides make 12-15 children...

Can't we keep this on Paris, rather than naive and uniformed comments on a totally unrelated issue.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-11-16 05:44:51 UTC

I like how people get all up in arms about a discussion about donations. CCP always has the right to do whatever they want. No one is taking that away from them, least of all some people on a forum having a discussion.



1. Yes, there are many terrible things happening worldwide, every day, every minute. Wanting to donate to a specific event doesn't make you inconsiderate of the suffering the world over. Donating is certainly not some kind of twisted zero sum game.

2. Why is PLEX for GOOD useful? Because people can spend time in game to earn ISK, which can then buy PLEX, which can then be donated. For an IRL poor player, this is a great option to give to a cause they normally couldn't give to. They sacrifice their time and effort and it translates to an RL benefit.

3. CCP doing PLEX for GOOD drives brings a lot of goodwill to CCP, to EVE, and to its players. It's a feelgood thing. It's a good publicity thing. How it eats into CCP's revenue is something the very smart people at CCP can figure out on their own and not for you, the forum goer, to worry about. If it doesn't make any sense for them, they won't do it. It's as simple as that.



Any other questions?

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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#17 - 2015-11-16 06:21:41 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Lebanon, Russia and Iraq are quickly forgotten?
How about Ethopia that are facing a food crisis with Sudanese refugees and draught?
How about most of the third world that has starving people all the time?

Have to love sensationalised corporate media. Roll
Edit: Stumbled across a perfect image. Big smile


i suggest you start a campaign for CCP to launchPLEX4GOOD for the victims on those areas as well.
i'm sure alot of us will support that as well. o7

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#18 - 2015-11-16 06:52:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Scipio Artelius wrote:
What happened in Paris is very tragic and its seriousness isn't diminished just because there are other man-made tragedies and drastic situations that people find themselves in.

At the same time, I don't personally think this is a PLEX4GOOD situation. The suffering is real, but so is the ability to deal with it and recover.


Exactly my thoughts. As with the earthquake in Chile, P4G should not be necessary for tragedies in countries capable to deal with them.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#19 - 2015-11-16 10:09:08 UTC
France is not your typical 3rth party country and can handle the tragedy. P4G should not be used as a publicity stunt just because what happened there is in all the news, it should be reserved for situations where donations are actually needed and help people.

Evil RatKid
CCP Falcon
#20 - 2015-11-16 11:22:50 UTC
Okay, this thread is being closed.

A word of warning that some of you have skirted super close to the line. Can it, or you'll lose the ability to post.

PLEX for GOOD is a program set up to provide relief funding for victims of natural disasters. It is not intended to be a relief program for any form of disaster or event that occurs due to political upheaval, war, terrorist action or armed conflict.

While the events that occurred in Paris on Friday night are completely abhorrent, and our thoughts and sympathies are with those who were injured and who lost loved ones, PLEX for GOOD is not a program designed to assist in the wake of a terrorist attack.

We do however encourage our players to donate to any charity and relief organizations they feel would best assist relief efforts in Paris.

Hope this clears things up.

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