EVE General Discussion

TMC: https://www.themittani.com/news/ccp-games-raises-30m-investment-vr-content
Press release: https://www.ccpgames.com/news/2015/ccp-games-raises-30-million-to-bolster-virtual-reality-development-efforts/



So CCP convinced their nº 1 investor and new partners to invest in CCP's VR projects, whereas new partners will get 2 seats at CCP's director board.

What this means:

- CCP's future VR projects are interesting to investors
- CCP is investing heavily on said VR projects

What this DOES NOT mean:

- CCP's VR projects are not Valkyrie or Gunjack sicne they're already done, but probably something based on the propotype tech shown at Fanfest
- EVE is not getting any of that money, it's new money for new projects

The deeper reading:

- Hilmar is very, very, like extremely, interested on virtual worlds. So probably CCP's top brass feel like now they are going to do the real deal, what they as a company always dreamed of. It can be interesting to know where does this path take, since after all CCP and Oculus and Samsung and everybody else are taking a bet on VR as entertainment technology, the same as Microsoft is taking a bet on augmented reality.

- EVE is really going to find a new place in CCP's hearts if Consumer VR 2.0 succeeds and CCP gets right their investment and efforts on it.

This is like watching a train wreck with nuclear material on board.


From a business perspective, consider this.

VR tech is completely unproven in the industry, and Valk has no longterm roadmap. If there is any likely monetization happening it will be up front payment from enthusiasts for a package deal. After that, because no link is planned, no other monetization can really happen either. There isn't any reason to keep paying, so its dead in the water with a low adoption rate.

Think about that. Then think about Dust.

Super broken game, barely functional, on ancient hardware. SOMEHOW ACTUALLY PROFITABLE, due in large to its link, dedicated fanbase and incredibly tenacious lead dev Rattati. There is reason to keep investing, even though it seems madness with how much the parent company neglects it.

Now, from purely a business standpoint, would I want to invest in unproven technology with a very high chance of failure? Or would I want to double down on something that had a very difficult launch and is in a bad situation, yet against all the odds has proven to be incredibly resilient with nowhere to go but up?

Folks at CCP are doing some very emotional decision making because nothing here is grounded in logic. I tip my hat from an enthusiast standpoint, but they are about to get burned in a very big way.

It would be cool if the train didn't have a hundred thousand dedicated players on board.

CCP's dogged infatuation with VR devices makes me want to facedesk every time I hear about them pouring more money into it.

EVE is basically dead anyway. Onward new ventures!

It was always dead for you, it's simply taken you this long to realize it. For those of us who actually like EVE and fit in with the game, it's as alive as ever. My killboard filled with Imperious Bees is evidence.

Thank you for speaking for the thousands of players you THINK you represent. From now on, you shall be known as Ambassador Hubris and Optimism.

Thanks. I'll add it to the pile of CCP products I'll never use because it's not on PC.

You ever take any time to look at your self? You are a (supposedly) grown man who can find nothing better to do with his time than to troll (see above highlighted words) on the forums of a game you don't like made by a company you can't stand.

I'd rather be the guy flag waving for a sinking ship than be anything like what you've become as a person.

Heh. Only thirty mill? Not a lot of money these days. It's a good start.

Giving up board seats for this sum? Ummm...

You wouldn't know honesty if it bit you in the exhaust port of your Drake {insert name of some Elite:Dangerous spaceship here}. CCP gets honest feedback, from people who actually like and understand their game and can recognize when they make mistakes. "Honest Feedback" is not possible from people who start from a point of disliking core aspects of EVE and who wish to see it be something completely different from the get go.

You can call it psychoanalyzing if you want, but deep down you know there is something wrong with someone that is this interested in the fortunes of a game they don't totally like.

EVE attracts people you can't stand (CODE and Goons), yet here you still are, it has gameplay you think is shallow and not meeting it's potential, yet here you are. You think poorly of CCP and their stewardship of EVE and have stated so numerous times, yet here you still are. By your own words, You think another existing product (Elite) is more interesting and more fun...

... yet here you are. I've come to the conclusion that somehow you enjoy being disappointed in things. You and Market, I honestly have never once seen a post from you guys that seemed in the least bit joyful about something having to do with EVE.