Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The Paladin and the Kronos are widely regared as the worst (pvp wise) of the marauders as they are entirely cap dependent whereas the shield counterparts have capless weapons and potentially capless defensive systems with ASB's or even *shudder* a passive recharge tank.

The Paladin Traits

Amarr BS/Level

• 5% Bonus to capacitor capacity
• 7.5% to Large Energy Turret Optimal Range

Marauders Bonus/Level

• 7.5% to Armor Repair Amount
• 5% to Large Energy Turret Damage

Role Bonus
100% to Large Energy Turret Damage (you only have 4 turrets so this is necessary at least)
100% to tractor beams range and velocity (OK nice pve bonus)
70% reduction in MJD reactivation delay (daddy like)
Can Fit Bastion Modules - Not really a bonus so much as required for operation

The Paladin suffers from no application bonus that is...no tracking. Projection is great...as long as you're shooting a BC+ ship in size. The real difficulty is that even with an enormous capacitor it can be take out of the fight by a couple neuts...and it just takes a bit longer if it is injecting.

Honestly? just change the turret damage to tracking of 7.5%/level and up the role bonus to 125% -> 150% and make the fittings generous enough that you can dual rep with tachyons with 2x t2 grid rigs and have high slot neuts and nos and/or smartbombs.

I can fit cap batteries to help against neuts and such. That I don't mind. Of course I'd like a look at cap batteries to see if their fittings need adjustment as well as if they are effective enough at countering nos/neut warfare. I'm sorta ignorant as to their effectiveness. Maybe people can clear up that part.

The Kronos suffers just as much from being subjected to cap warfare too commonly. but I like it. I fly it all the time and honestly its great for holding onto a carrier that is caught ratting. And of course in limited engagements.

All marauders could use more agility and an improved base warp speed to be like command ships (3.0au/sec or at least up to 2.7).

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From the thread for their rebalance.

The actual problem you are complaining about OP is the overpowering nature of the ASB's especially when dual ASB fitted.
Not the base ships.

Though I would love a buff to the Paladins, and even more I'd love them to actually 'maraud' like their description says rather than turn into expensive loot pinata's that are stationary, first address the modules causing the issue.

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in our ASB's... William Shakespeare

The ASB is a truly abominable module that should have never been introduced.

I really do not think the Paladin or Kronos should be buffed, they are quite fine.

I think I've seen more solo kronoses than anything else, actually.
And the pali seems to suffer more from using lasers than anything else; their greatest advantage being battles at ranges that a solo ship can't dictate.

Not all ships are meant to be good at all jobs.

No, but all ships should actually be good at something unlike the paladin which is at best mediocre at everything. The paladin is the only marauder the basic design of which doesn't make sense.

My their nature marauders are immobile, which means they are totally dependent on the ability of their weapons to apply damage to targets of varying size across all ranges because they cannot dictate range to compensate for tracking, at all, this is particularly a huge deal for battleships because their guns have awful tracking. The Vargur and Kronos take this into account and have tracking bonuses the golem has an explosion velocity and a target painter bonus.

By contrast the Paladin has bonuses to optimal range and capacitor capacity.

The ships with the least tracking problems get tracking bonuses, the ship with the worst tracking problems does not. Not only that but instead of getting a second damage application bonus like every other marauder it instead gets a cap bonus that should just be built into the hull since you always get the full 25% extra cap anyway.

It's a badly designed ship that could be easily fixed.

The paladin is a great pvp ship. Set it on the field, push the button, and kill all incoming falconry. Tachs burn down falcons as fast as they land. The paladin isn't the high damage on the kb platform. They gave you a range bonus - use it. It was born to burn falcons and rooks off the field. Add a sensor booster and one of those passive targeters and burn them all!

If you're a falcon pilot, would you want to be on the field with a paladin? Heck no!

But the paladin can't be jammed when in uber mode. That makes it far superior to your Napoc for anti falcon work.

You probably don't use it because it can't warp out while in uber mode.

Inability to warp really doesn't matter much if the fight is actually happening.

The navy Apoc can fit dual ECCM without compromising it's effectiveness and can receive reps at the same time, they also track better so they're more useful as a general fleet ship than the paladin is.

The kind of situation where I thought the paladin might actually be useful is against a kind of kitchen-skinky fleet with a low number of dps and logistics ships but multiple recons which used to be fairly common in highsec business. But in practice any fight that it's worth bringing a super slow battleship to usually has either enough DPS, enough neuting or lasts like an hout so local reps are unsustainable.