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What I like about the new camera functions compared to old functions: the RTS style camera function.

What I dislike:
-the scrolling with mouse is too smooth so it does not feel responsive, also there is noticeable delay where it still keeps zooming after you stop scrolling. I very much like the old way where I can quickly and precisely select my zoom level as I do a lot of manual precision flying.

-when scrolling out you are suddenly forced in the furthest zoom mode, going much further than what you possibly wanted. This also forces tactical overlay. I would prefer to select my zoom level manually and I prefer to select if I use tactical overlay/tactical view mode or not. I would prefer to retain the option to keep camera centered on my ship and zoom all the way out like currently.

-if zoomed out and engaging warp you are forced back to the middle zoom level. This can be quite hazardous in a multitude of situations and lead to lost situational awareness.

-the maximum allowed zoom level is smaller than before. edit: <- actually bigger, but when you start zooming out you hit a level where you can't zoom anymore and you need to drag the camera a bit with right mouse button before you can zoom more.

-upon further testing I could also occasionally use the pan feature.

-tracking camera not working currently

-cinematic movement of the camera is really starting to bug me after a while. I want the camera either centered on my ship or a point selected by myself.

wtb use old camera feature

- The new camera is currently mega bugged when warping and goes into full spazz mode

- There needs to be a way to anchor the camera to your ship (like it does currently) when in alt-f1 mode

- There should be a way to lock which camera mode you are in so it can't change when you scroll in

*sigh*

Again, you haven't learnt from the debarkal of the 'Old' New Map for probing.

In regards to the "Normal Camera" mode. The Alt-2 one.
Please stop making the camera controls less responsive, and stop adding extra weight and momentum behind it.
It feels laggy, and doesn't respond as well, especially in the vertical.
The automatic FOV zoom you've put in feels nauseating.
The automatic shift to Tactical view is annoying if I don't want to use it, but be zoomed out.
Right mouse button to move the camera's view doesn't work, and the manual FOV zoom that could be used like binoculars is gone too.
It also randomly shifts and moves around when you turn the ship, and is FAR worse than the old camera bobbing. Which you'd just made an option to remove.



Yes, it looks pretty, just like the 'Old' New Map. It looks dynamic and like a Space Ship show in TV, just like the 'Old' New Map. But it feels horrible to actually use, just like the 'Old' New Map.

Please stop thinking about what looks pretty, and think about the responsiveness and it's use as a tool.





They're using a Field of View zoom. You can zoom like that in Tranq EVE if you hold right mouse button, shift the mouse slightly to move the camera angle, then hold left mouse button and push the mouse upwards.

Can we get it so that bounding box targeting targets all valid enemies within the box? Or all ships? this selection of one seemingly random one is not really great.

The idea of a bounding box is to allow you to select all things within it, this seems quite counter-intuitive.

when i load i'm looking at a black screen. i have to click a camera mode to no longer just see black

Well, I filed a bug report on camera controls. For some reason, holding the middle mouse button while move mouse around causes the camera to spaz out. Almost like it is instantly switching around zoom levels or something.

Anyways, while the first person view is cool, it seems pointless since the turrets on the ship are always pointing at what you are firing at. I *MISS* not having the camera focused solely on my ship. I feel it is a must to be able to look around freely to get a tactical feel of the field.

I agree with others, please allow us to choose which camera system works best for us.

New camera is cinematic-only.

It's completely useless and downright harmful for actually flying around.

1) It's never centered on the ship. Ever tried flying RC planes? Do it and see how you fare on the first try.
2) Forced switching between camera modes depending on zoom level. Yeah. Right.
3) Related to the previous is forced switching of tactical overlay. Zoom in too close and you have to switch overlay. Again. In a middle of piloting a 6km/s malediction in battle. Yeah. Right.

Personally I always fly with the tactical overlay on and the camera centered on my ship (except when looking at enemy guns).
The new camera simply does not provide such an option.

It's good for running hisec L4s, but it's absolutely horrible for manually piloting fast ships.

The whole idea behind the new camera design is faulty.

Tactical overlay should be an independent option. I want it when zoomed in, I want it when zoomed out. I want it when looking at the enemy ship. If I don't want it when doing missions, I will disable it manually, thank you.

Camera modes should be independent from zoom level. I don't want inertial controls and cinematic angles when trying not to die in an inty. I want not to die. Cinematcs get in the way.

Free-floating camera should be an explicit option, not an inescapeable consequence of zooming out too far. Controlling flying things in 3 dimensions with a fixed point of view (as in, fixed to the Ether) is counter-intuitive as any experience with RC models should tell you.

somehow this made it out a day early :) here is a short writeup on the feature.