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Gang links should only apply to the grid where they are active.

Off-grid gang links these days are pretty popular with "solo" players and small groups that operate in a single solar system. I believe that if a pilot and ship are affecting your on-grid combat, they should be on-grid with you so that there is a chance to eliminate the force multiplier. This is already the case with every other ship and module that affects combat unless you count assigned fighters -- and in that case you can destroy the fighters to eliminate their effect.

I have no problem with gang links in general as I've been the beneficiary probably more often than the victim, but someone ought to be at the helm and the ship ought to be vulnerable to counterattack.

Likely the main detractors will say that since a gang linked ship has to be uncloaked to provide bonuses it is vulnerable -- but this isn't true if the ship is at a POS.

I agree with this in principle.

However, given the current fleet bonus' mechanics, I'm pretty sure its not possible to limit fleet booster effects to ongrid without completely revamping the fleet boosting system.

Why? The current system is limited to the solar system the booster is in, I don't see why it couldn't be reduced further to only be for those ships it can see on grid.

I appreciate that comment, but I think we should leave it to CCP to decide what is difficult because they're the guys writing the code. If they say it's impossible or would take months of work for a potentially small benefit, then I'm content to let them work on something else.

I agree as well with the idea of limiting the range of gang links. Especially in respect to mining. I've been in 0.0 before and I have seen plenty of players park their Rorqual/Orca alts in the safety of a POS while other mine (reaping the bonuses). Not much risk there compared to the rewards of mining.

fleet fights would always start with "primary the claymore/vulture/damnation" and the whole point of fleet bonuses would vanish into thin air

(fleet fights usually have command ships on grid though v0v)

also do people actually fly the eos because lol

Im not sure if the reason it is this way is because ccp dont want to have deal with fixing broken grids.

With reward you talking about, reward its none almost spend time and noting els ;( dis days mining is worst profesion in eve, max wath you can ern per hour is 25 milj mining arkonor bistot, so tell me how the poor miner with such income will genareta back his lost rork how much hours its takes to mine so much minerals back to replace it with all fiting.
I not talking that evrage income per hour its verry poor that is 11 milj per hour with one hulk by perfect boosting, by mining randome ores. so for rorqual need to mine around 181 hours with one hulk. So look numbers and befor posting somting calcualte how that guy will ern back that money and if there is eny good reward at all.

This days ppl mining not for money eny more:
1, they minign for fun - to rest from hard work day.
2. they minign thatthey like to mine and chill in chats and voice.

If wie wish keep 0.0 mining att al in eve wie ned to create buble around hiden belts that one shjip with guns cant warp in it, that comes out form current mining incomes.

This means that the whole fleet has to stay together in the system. Eg: you cant have the heavy ships shooting a POS and the lights camping the in gate.

Also, the Fleet Command ships will need to be reworked to be able to have buffer tanks comporable to the Damnation; the Eos and the Claymore will need to lose their lolrep bonuses in favour of some kind of EHP boost. Shield tanking Fleet Commands may also need their slot layout revising, as the Command Processors replace tanking mids.

Being required to be on grid would make T3 gangboosters effectively useless.