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Cheap ship for c3 anoms

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TheRealRickRoss
Diazepam Industries
#1 - 2015-11-05 13:45:29 UTC
Hey fellows, apologies if this should have been in Ships & Modules but I thought you guys were better placed to answer my Q.

I live in a c3 and currently run the combat anomalies in my pricey tengu i use for data/relic sigs. Given the extra risk when running anomalies I was trying to think of a cheaper alternative, caldari or minmatar spec'd, that would be capable of running all for combat anoms.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers
RickyRoss
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2015-11-05 13:48:25 UTC
a chimera

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Nerapa
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-11-05 14:19:59 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:
a chimera


If its a wolf rayet go with thanny. But deffo chimmy otherwise
Peonza Chan
Gloryhole Initiative
#4 - 2015-11-05 15:05:59 UTC
if you are running it solo you probably can't do with ship cheaper than a tengu
in case you have some friends to run anoms with try with some RR setup (like domis)
Austneal
Nero Fazione
#5 - 2015-11-05 15:28:43 UTC
I'm actually able to run most of the C3 anoms in a Cerberus. I'm not on my computer at the moment, but I can provide my fit later if you like.
TheRealRickRoss
Diazepam Industries
#6 - 2015-11-05 16:01:17 UTC
Austneal wrote:
I'm actually able to run most of the C3 anoms in a Cerberus. I'm not on my computer at the moment, but I can provide my fit later if you like.



That would be great bud, cheers
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2015-11-05 16:29:58 UTC
Nerapa wrote:
Andrew Jester wrote:
a chimera


If its a wolf rayet go with thanny. But deffo chimmy otherwise


Quote:
caldari or minmatar spec'd


l2 read kid

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Borsek
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-11-05 16:57:03 UTC
Rr domis, as for minmatar or caldari... Drake. Then again piloting a drake will make you die of boredom, so go for either an alt and dual box RR domies or for a cerb+ bricktank drake with ecm.

Either way, it's C3s so play around with fits so they tank 600-800 omni, get as much dps as possible and make sure you're cap positive like +10/s. Can easily be done with a pair of dominixes.

You can even solo doublerep domi, but you will have to warp out. Caldari ships are **** except for the falcon anyway.
Austneal
Nero Fazione
#9 - 2015-11-05 17:00:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Austneal
Austneal wrote:
I'm actually able to run most of the C3 anoms in a Cerberus. I'm not on my computer at the moment, but I can provide my fit later if you like.

390 DPS (T1 Missiles) (450 with drones)
210 DPS Omni Tank
1,700 m/s with MWD

It has a 119km locking range, and 50% reduction to MWD sig radius. The idea is to permarun the MWD and hold range as far away as possible, kill webbers first, etc.

It's got a fairly weak tank, but I've found that as long as you keep your speed up and hold 100km+ range, the sleepers won't do much damage. Its also pretty difficult to catch by a cloaky when you're moving that fast P

[Cerberus, Solo C3]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
50MN Microwarpdrive II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x3
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#10 - 2015-11-05 19:56:02 UTC
Passive snake with rapid heavys and drones works really well. You can tun the sites in a t2 fit tengu btw
Johng Kahn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-11-06 04:58:01 UTC
Honestly if you live in that c3 and your not dumpster diving in adjacent holes I recommend a cheap t2 fit rattle. You will clear sites at a vastly faster rate and thus not be on grid as long for someone to gank you.

Rattle is both ez mode and laid back. Because your in your own c3 you could go with a duel xl ancillary fit cheaply but not be able to hold up to a long fight if dropped as easy or spend the extra isk and go with a Passive rattle with t2 purgers and be able to hold up to full neut pressure and around 2k dps tank.

The passive set up leaves you room to change tank on the fly and swap out for utility mids and dmg mod lows as needed. Just always drop depot when you land.

A duel XL setup will let you handle up to a 5k dps burst tank with high immunity to neut pressure but not total and takes more attention and management. The trade off is you can fit it for full dps all the time. For rattle with decent skills and t2 fit thats about 1300 dps on average.

Either way Rattle hulls are cheap these days and you can fit it out in t2 for around 650 to 750 mill at most for a passive with t2 purgers. I recommend keeping a large faction nos in high slot though for either fit.
Historically Unstable
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-11-06 05:45:53 UTC
aldhura wrote:
Passive snake with rapid heavys and drones works really well. You can tun the sites in a t2 fit tengu btw



Would like to echo this, t2 tengus are usually only like 500-600 mil right? It's been a while since I looked. Someone had a nice blog post about cheap-ish T3s for wormhole sites. Might want to google a bit for that. Should help you a bit.
TheRealRickRoss
Diazepam Industries
#13 - 2015-11-08 14:13:58 UTC
Johng Kahn wrote:
Honestly if you live in that c3 and your not dumpster diving in adjacent holes I recommend a cheap t2 fit rattle. You will clear sites at a vastly faster rate and thus not be on grid as long for someone to gank you.

Rattle is both ez mode and laid back. Because your in your own c3 you could go with a duel xl ancillary fit cheaply but not be able to hold up to a long fight if dropped as easy or spend the extra isk and go with a Passive rattle with t2 purgers and be able to hold up to full neut pressure and around 2k dps tank.

The passive set up leaves you room to change tank on the fly and swap out for utility mids and dmg mod lows as needed. Just always drop depot when you land.

A duel XL setup will let you handle up to a 5k dps burst tank with high immunity to neut pressure but not total and takes more attention and management. The trade off is you can fit it for full dps all the time. For rattle with decent skills and t2 fit thats about 1300 dps on average.

Either way Rattle hulls are cheap these days and you can fit it out in t2 for around 650 to 750 mill at most for a passive with t2 purgers. I recommend keeping a large faction nos in high slot though for either fit.


Cheers everyone for the replies, i might buy a t2 fit for my normal tengu, but I'm liking the idea of the snake.

Johng, for the dual xl ancillary fit, can the boosters last long enough to clear a site? I'd rather not go passive and lose DPS.

Cheers bud
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#14 - 2015-11-08 19:06:10 UTC
Go passive, watch this ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok

T2 fit the SPR's and carry a mobile depo, refit on the go. Most C3 sites you can do with 2-3 SPR's depending on your skills.
I use rapid heavys as they work better in a c3.
Running ancilary's for PVE is a pain as you have to keep building hauling them.

Just to add, you can test your stuff on the test server, CCP have been very kind and changed the way move me works. You can fit a ship anywhere and get moved to any class of wh all by yourself. The ones available may not match you effects.
TheRealRickRoss
Diazepam Industries
#15 - 2015-11-09 12:05:40 UTC
aldhura wrote:
Go passive, watch this ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok

T2 fit the SPR's and carry a mobile depo, refit on the go. Most C3 sites you can do with 2-3 SPR's depending on your skills.
I use rapid heavys as they work better in a c3.
Running ancilary's for PVE is a pain as you have to keep building hauling them.

Just to add, you can test your stuff on the test server, CCP have been very kind and changed the way move me works. You can fit a ship anywhere and get moved to any class of wh all by yourself. The ones available may not match you effects.


thanks for the help, and SISI tip...after thinking about it more though I think I'm gonna just stick to my tengu, maybe use one of these snakes for trying a c4 anom...
Xerathul Muur
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-11-10 21:05:24 UTC
I have been using a passive Gila to run C3 sites with some success, I don't use missiles so my dps is abysmal but I can do any of the non-neuting sites without losing my ship.

I also have an ishtar that can run sites but only sites without neuts; both ships use an adaptive to get over 760hp/sec regen.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#17 - 2015-11-10 21:49:04 UTC
Xerathul Muur wrote:
I have been using a passive Gila to run C3 sites with some success, I don't use missiles so my dps is abysmal but I can do any of the non-neuting sites without losing my ship.

I also have an ishtar that can run sites but only sites without neuts; both ships use an adaptive to get over 760hp/sec regen.


Gila will be losing a low slot in the next patch, so watch out for that
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-11-11 06:43:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniela Doran
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HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-11-11 13:12:48 UTC  |  Edited by: HoruSeth
TheRealRickRoss wrote:
aldhura wrote:
Go passive, watch this ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok

T2 fit the SPR's and carry a mobile depo, refit on the go. Most C3 sites you can do with 2-3 SPR's depending on your skills.
I use rapid heavys as they work better in a c3.
Running ancilary's for PVE is a pain as you have to keep building hauling them.

Just to add, you can test your stuff on the test server, CCP have been very kind and changed the way move me works. You can fit a ship anywhere and get moved to any class of wh all by yourself. The ones available may not match you effects.


thanks for the help, and SISI tip...after thinking about it more though I think I'm gonna just stick to my tengu, maybe use one of these snakes for trying a c4 anom...


NO. Forget that Video!!! NOW!

1. This has been done in a Pulsar Wormhole!
2. This was before RR Patch

C4 solo in a normale wormhole in a snake fitted like this is possible, but not much fun or worth the isk since sleeper-RR has been patched.

Passive Snake is reasonable for C3, but you can do that in a simple T2 active tank RS, that cost less than 450M ISK and still do 1.2k dps or more if you pimp it a little bit.

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"

Johng Kahn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-11-14 04:32:39 UTC
TheRealRickRoss wrote:
Johng Kahn wrote:
Honestly if you live in that c3 and your not dumpster diving in adjacent holes I recommend a cheap t2 fit rattle. You will clear sites at a vastly faster rate and thus not be on grid as long for someone to gank you.

Rattle is both ez mode and laid back. Because your in your own c3 you could go with a duel xl ancillary fit cheaply but not be able to hold up to a long fight if dropped as easy or spend the extra isk and go with a Passive rattle with t2 purgers and be able to hold up to full neut pressure and around 2k dps tank.

The passive set up leaves you room to change tank on the fly and swap out for utility mids and dmg mod lows as needed. Just always drop depot when you land.

A duel XL setup will let you handle up to a 5k dps burst tank with high immunity to neut pressure but not total and takes more attention and management. The trade off is you can fit it for full dps all the time. For rattle with decent skills and t2 fit thats about 1300 dps on average.

Either way Rattle hulls are cheap these days and you can fit it out in t2 for around 650 to 750 mill at most for a passive with t2 purgers. I recommend keeping a large faction nos in high slot though for either fit.


Cheers everyone for the replies, i might buy a t2 fit for my normal tengu, but I'm liking the idea of the snake.

Johng, for the dual xl ancillary fit, can the boosters last long enough to clear a site? I'd rather not go passive and lose DPS.

Cheers bud


Yes Duel xl ancilary you normally only run one rep at a time and only use 2 for maybe the tripple upholder spawn in the relic sites. You will most likely be refilling your after each site until you get used to it then you can average 2 to 3 sites between restocking your cap boosters. rattle has a decent cargo bay. I used to do c4 sites that way in a rattle with no issue.

It is notable to mention that a duel asb fit can also be used on raven, navy raven and navy scorp for those sites.
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