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Also on the chopping block, wardecs

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Paranoid Loyd
#61 - 2015-11-07 01:12:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Lucas Kell wrote:
you're a troll.
Like I said, only trolls see me as a troll, so right back at ya.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Read yor posts back sometime.
These are all on the first page of my post history, would you like me to go back further?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6150680#post6150680
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6149516#post6149516
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6147976#post6147976
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6147391#post6147391
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6143703#post6143703

Lucas Kell wrote:
Post on topic or **** off.
Heh

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#62 - 2015-11-07 02:05:10 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
I mean that I don't even remember the last time I saw you post something that wasn't a troll.


This is the biggest projection I have ever seen or heard of.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2015-11-07 04:57:06 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:

Leto... Roll


Lucas ... X

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Valkin Mordirc
#64 - 2015-11-07 05:21:06 UTC
Actually Loyd is one of my more favourite posters here on the forums. It's obviously biased as his and my view of the game align better than other people. He maybe troll sometimes... But don't we all? =D I know you do Lucas, don't act like you don't. But at the same time you still believe in what you say in topics like this.

And call anyone a carebear is pretty silly. Everyone Carebears at some point. Some people just want to take the risk at the point. There's nothing wrong with that.

What I'm trying to say here, is calling someone a troll on the EVE-Forums is...pretty silly has pretty much everyone trolls at some point some time. And calling someone a Carebear is pretty much redundant because it's pretty tough to going all out BAMF ************ and pvp in super pimped fit golems. But that generally means your paying a sub AND buying plex from the website like it's cocaine. WHICH


also gets you trolled for.


EVE is silly sometimes.
#DeleteTheWeak
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2015-11-07 08:03:09 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Hello spacefriends,

The ministry of truth (conveniently located on the web at evedarklord.blogspot.ca) is again called upon to keep you the valued members of crime & punishment aware of the tides of nerfdom sweeping towards the beacheads of content-creation you have worked hard to establish.

Recently in a reddit post, CCP Fozzie confirmed his intention to break faith with the basic principles of 'risk vs reward' that are central to the EvE ethos. How so? Well in short, he supports the notion of creating 'social corporations' or 'corporation lite' abominations.

What's the problem? Well, the likes of CSM Mike Asariah have poured honeyed-potions of increased player retention and the benefits of providing corp-like features to players in NPC corps, while avoiding the fact it also means said players are ultimately getting corporation features 'for free' while remaining immune to war declarations. Proponents of this abomination then try to rationalize their crimes against risk-vs-reward, by downplaying the potency of the features they will give them, saying 'its only bookmarks', or 'its only shared calendars' -- all while refusing to define what increased risks they *are* willing to accept in trade for receiving more, while risking nothing.

Is that EvE?

tldr;
I anticipate the impact of social corporations to be two-fold. First, players hiding out in perpetuity in NPC corporations today will now be able to rake in their candied ISK from incursions while also getting corporation features and being immune to wardec. In short, having their cake and eating it too.

Secondly, players in full corporations today who are frustrated with wardec mechanics, will be more inclined to drop their corporation memberships, and simply re-form as a social-corporation while hiding out in NPC corporations, again enjoying corp features without fear of wardec and the added benefit of not even having to re-roll a corp now when a dec does land.

While I support a broad-sweeping plan that includes big changes to hisec to increase player retention, I have not, and will not -- ever support nerfs in a vacuum that only offer the nerf, never the stick.

Ultimately, I just report, I am but one other (bored) dude on the internet. You however must decide what EvE is and will become, while the clock is clearly ticking on making your voices heard on several fronts.

F


Incursion runners already sit in one man corps and roll corp if decc'ed. Even if that option were removed they can simply dock up for the duration of the wardec and then go back to printing ISK. Wardecs don't affect people with rudimentary knowledge of the game who don't have significant assets in space. I don't understand what you're freaking about.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#66 - 2015-11-08 03:06:00 UTC
glad to see CCP finally getting serious about making highsec a decent place to operate...still much more to do
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#67 - 2015-11-08 03:59:04 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
glad to see CCP finally getting serious about making highsec a decent place to operate...still much more to do


What? Do you really believe that Veers? Honestly, I couldn't care less about the idea..however..they should call it what it is...reward with no risk. If someone wants the benefits of a corp..they should join one. A "corp lite" is a joke. "For social groupings etc" they say...you can do that now..it's called a chat channel. CODE does it..AG does it..miners do it..so do haulers. Like I said..I couldn't care less..but call it what it is..not some sugar coated, bs name.

Eve is about risk and turmoil. When you remove one or the other..or both..you have effectively killed the very core of what it is about. CCP should be thankfull and count their blessings that Eve has made it this far for this long. All things must come to an end eventually. It is better to burn out than to fade away. Changing what something is will not make it better...Eve has made it this far in 12 years based on what it is...change that and what happens? Does CCP and the risk averse population of Eve really think they can kill the core..and it'll last another 12 years? Not all change is good. Since day 1 everyone is aware what eve is..love it or leave it. Adapt or die..no risk..no reward.

@Feyd..Eve mail me sometime..I wanna ask you something and make a suggestion..assuming you haven't already considered it. Pirate

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
ISD Buldath
#68 - 2015-11-09 00:33:58 UTC
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