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Parallax patch makes map unusable - FPS drops to ~6 with stutter
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Tilah Chengdu
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-11-05 17:25:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tilah Chengdu
Since the parallax patch went out I can no longer use the "map beta". I primarily play on 2 different computers both are fairly new systems with plenty of graphics horse power. When I open the map the FPS drops immediately to around 6 and the whole UI starts to stutter. Closing the map restores FPS to full 60 within a second or two. I tried re-sizing the window and changing from windowed mode to full screen but nothing seemed to change the performance of the map window post patch.

Are other people having this problem? I don't see anyone else posting about it. The map stutters so badly its not really usable which makes certain aspects of the game unplayable. Is there a work around?

My system specs:

Computer 1
Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz
16.0 GB ram
Windows 10 Pro 64bit
AMD HD 7950

Computer 2
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz
16.0 GB ram
Windows 10 Pro 64bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750



***** Update for those with this issue there is a work around ******

Try turning off corporate bookmarks and/or possibly other types of objects if you are having this problem.

****** Thank you Maya Cinderfort for finding a work around. ********



Maya Cinderfort wrote:
got the same problem as well, fun fact when i'm zoomed into my current system it's fps just a bit lower than normal when i try to find jumpbridges & what not it totaly goes nuts like with full region its a frame per 3 seconds


EDIT: found the issue. everything is displaye again, turn of stuff like sun/personal BMs/ corpBMs fps returns to normal
EhlleUser
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-11-05 18:17:33 UTC  |  Edited by: EhlleUser
same here What? everything runs smooth until I open the beta map. new scanning/probing windows works fine. fps drops from fixed 60fps to 6 or something.

win10 pro 64bit
intel i7
12gb ram
ati 280x
windowmode 3826x1125 dx11

is it fixed with Version: 13.10.977931 Question
Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#3 - 2015-11-05 23:41:08 UTC
now it's 977544 (paralax 1.3)

I don't have the issue when scanning, or using the new solar system map

did a small session just now in some system, leaving the map opened all the time, I got full frame even with the windows 10 dvr recoding on,

laptop from 2 years ago, 3? i7 + GT650M + 8GB

I have that on a flat TV at 50Hz and eve runs at 50fps with interval 1, except CQ lol 30fps


in interval none I have 67 fps in space, and with solarsystem map fullscreen I get 80+ fps

BUT

with solarsystem NOT in full screen I drop at 53-55 fps



try solarsystem map full screen, it reminds you of old map, bonus point for it.
Border Security
#4 - 2015-11-06 13:19:56 UTC
I am DEFINITELY having this issue! FPS drops to around 4 FPS and I can see my GPU's usage and power drop to pretty much 0%...at least one of my CPU cores shoots up 80-100% usage too. My map is totally unusable, Please look into this CCP!

CPU: i5 3470
GPU: GTX 960
Maya Cinderfort
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-11-06 16:50:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Maya Cinderfort
got the same problem as well, fun fact when i'm zoomed into my current system it's fps just a bit lower than normal when i try to find jumpbridges & what not it totaly goes nuts like with full region its a frame per 3 seconds


EDIT: found the issue. everything is displaye again, turn of stuff like sun/personal BMs/ corpBMs fps returns to normal
Pan Tastic
More Outside
#6 - 2015-11-07 18:02:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Pan Tastic
Having the same problem. Hope they fix it fast. Have a high end machine so its not from my side...


EDIT: Turning off corp bookmarks seems essential to avoid the stutter. Most of the other options could be on though. Just experiment. Stations, suns, stargates work fine for me.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#7 - 2015-11-08 01:33:35 UTC
I'm noticing a stuttering effect with the beta map as well, though far less pronounced. Is anyone else seeing this issue with interval immediate? If I normally get above 100 fps, it'll fluctuate as much as 10-15 fps, but it's not as bad as others have said here. I can see it when using the map or if I'm watching the FPS Monitor (CTRL+F in game).

Intel i5 @ 3.2Ghz
Win 7 64bit Home Premium
8Gb RAM
EVGA NVidia GTX 660 SC2 3Gb
Seagate Desktop HDD, 1Tb @ 6Gb/s 64MB Cache
All Drivers are up-to-date
2x Monitors running at 3840x1080 (1920x1080 each)
Client in Borderless Windowed, Dx11 setting, Interval Setting: Immediate (V-Sinc off in NVidia Control Panel as well)

Everything but AA set to high, AA is off, HDR and resource caching are enabled, asteroid environments, light rays, camera bob and shake all turned off, all other effects turned on. Map has all icons showing.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Vagablond
Redhogs
Fraternity.
#8 - 2015-11-08 19:41:22 UTC
Same Problem here guys.

I am running eve on
Corei7 4690
16gigs ram
Gtx 780 x2 SLI


It makes my fps drop to 5-6. Impossible to use while probing
The Reverand Togenada
The Cathedral of the Subgenius
#9 - 2015-11-08 20:03:41 UTC  |  Edited by: The Reverand Togenada
Me too!

I have an AMD system.

Phenom II X4 955, 3.2 Mhz
16 Gb DDR3 memory
Radeon HD 7870 2Gb
Windows 7 Enterprise 6.1.7601 Service Park 1 Build 7601

But processor and gpu utilization are low when the issue is occurring, ~30% cpu and ~50% gpu.

fps a steady 60 with map closed, plummets to less than 1 with the beta map open.

Switching to fullscreen map we go back to 60fps.

more than a little annoying

Hmm after switching back from f/s to windowed I still have 60fps, so it's an intermittent bug.
Captain Cean
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-11-09 16:29:00 UTC
I have the same Issue BUT only on 1 Char when i open the map on another ACC on the same installation i have no issues
Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#11 - 2015-11-09 20:17:05 UTC
Captain Cean wrote:
I have the same Issue BUT only on 1 Char when i open the map on another ACC on the same installation i have no issues


are the map on the one working and the one not working the same
same system?
same overview/bookmarks?
same display mode (map fullscreen or windowed?

someone reported an issue about corp bm making things lags, I noticed fps drop when map was windowed and not in full screen

I have 3 toons on separate accounts I use for scanning none have the lags mentionned, I had my cache cleared a few days ago, maybe there is something there, I don't know, try it and let us know

maybe ccp know exactly what the issue is and is waiting tomorrow patch day to fix stuff? cross fingers
Captain Cean
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-11-10 10:35:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Cean
Kal'Han wrote:
Captain Cean wrote:
I have the same Issue BUT only on 1 Char when i open the map on another ACC on the same installation i have no issues


are the map on the one working and the one not working the same
same system?
same overview/bookmarks?
same display mode (map fullscreen or windowed?

someone reported an issue about corp bm making things lags, I noticed fps drop when map was windowed and not in full screen

I have 3 toons on separate accounts I use for scanning none have the lags mentionned, I had my cache cleared a few days ago, maybe there is something there, I don't know, try it and let us know

maybe ccp know exactly what the issue is and is waiting tomorrow patch day to fix stuff? cross fingers


1.
Yeah i can even open the maps at the same time (different monitors) and still have only the issue that one client create lag.
i have even deleted my Profile settings still fps Drop
2.
yeah same system
3.
Same overview but not same corp ( 3 of my chars work without anyproblem and only 1 (that one in a play corp) have the issues)
4.
yeah complet same setup

So after i have checked nearly everything with my system maybe there is sometihng ingame that make the issues (maybe bookmarks or something)
Divinism
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-11-10 23:30:48 UTC
Same issue as OP

i7 Intel
16 GB RAM
AMD 7970
Windows 10 64
Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#14 - 2015-11-11 00:03:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Kal'Han
Captain Cean wrote:
Kal'Han wrote:
Captain Cean wrote:
I have the same Issue BUT only on 1 Char when i open the map on another ACC on the same installation i have no issues


are the map on the one working and the one not working the same
same system?
same overview/bookmarks?
same display mode (map fullscreen or windowed?

someone reported an issue about corp bm making things lags, I noticed fps drop when map was windowed and not in full screen

I have 3 toons on separate accounts I use for scanning none have the lags mentionned, I had my cache cleared a few days ago, maybe there is something there, I don't know, try it and let us know

maybe ccp know exactly what the issue is and is waiting tomorrow patch day to fix stuff? cross fingers


1.
Yeah i can even open the maps at the same time (different monitors) and still have only the issue that one client create lag.
i have even deleted my Profile settings still fps Drop
2.
yeah same system
3.
Same overview but not same corp ( 3 of my chars work without anyproblem and only 1 (that one in a play corp) have the issues)
4.
yeah complet same setup

So after i have checked nearly everything with my system maybe there is sometihng ingame that make the issues (maybe bookmarks or something)


so the corp bookmark is the issue as was found by Maya Cinderfort top of the page, this confirms it

http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-parallax patch 1.4 and 1.5 do not talk about map, but was focused on really broken stuff I guess.

try and disable corp location in the system map filter (first button in the "title" bar of the map windows)
Tilah Chengdu
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-11-11 02:54:32 UTC
Maya Cinderfort wrote:
got the same problem as well, fun fact when i'm zoomed into my current system it's fps just a bit lower than normal when i try to find jumpbridges & what not it totaly goes nuts like with full region its a frame per 3 seconds


EDIT: found the issue. everything is displaye again, turn of stuff like sun/personal BMs/ corpBMs fps returns to normal


Turning off the corporate bookmarks fixes the problem for me. Appreciate the help! Hope that fixes others.
EhlleUser
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-11-11 18:50:35 UTC
disable bookmarks seems to work for me too. if I disable corp and personal bookmarks my fps goes back to normal. betamap at fullscreen makes fps to drop even more. thats not working for me here...
Captain Cean
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-11-12 12:03:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Cean
i can confirm it too after i diasbled corp bookmarks (we have about 400 BM.)
My Fps gone back to normal
samjaona
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-11-23 19:31:11 UTC
Hi guys,

same with me, never had any issues with my rendering performance, since the Parallax update my framerate drop down to 2-6 frames per second, depends on what scale i am watching the map. I also did deactivate the bookmarks and the framerate went back to normal.

I figured out that when i zoom out totally or totally in the framerate is acceptable 30ish - 40ish. Anything between will freeze my screen down to 5 frames.

Thanks for the hint with the bookmarks, now i can use the map again. Besides i really like the new map in comparison to the old one.

regards
Sam