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PLEX pricing seems grossly unfair to UK and EU users.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#21 - 2015-11-05 14:28:17 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Damn Fareigners: "We got "free" healthcare" !

Muricans: "We got cheaper PLEX AND we don't have to take out a multi-year loan to buy one Gallon of Gas".

Damn Fareigners: "You win"...
We've got 1000's of years of history and culture P

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2015-11-05 14:41:51 UTC
America has a nasty habit of not adding the tax to things. You pay, then pay again then they look at you expecting a tip.
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-11-05 14:44:19 UTC
Australians:

- Ripped off when we pay with didgeriedollars
- Our internet speeds are abysmal, only 4 koalas a second
- Downtime is in our primetime.

Stop your whinging.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Doddy
Excidium.
#24 - 2015-11-05 14:52:25 UTC
Polarbear Cuddlebunny wrote:
I was looking at getting more ETC and/or PLEX today and after checking the prices I was surprised to see that US users (well, anyone buying in USD) gain more than 1/3rd extra compared to their UK (GBP buying) counterparts - and 10% more than EU (EUR transacting) users.

Using the MasterCard exchange rates from a few mins ago, a pack of 6 PLEX costs:

USD: 104.00 - ($17.34/PLEX)
EUR: 105.50 - ($114.39 USD - 10% more expensive -- $19.07/PLEX)
GBP: 89.99 - ($138.95 USD - 34% more expensive - $23.16/PLEX)

Put another way, for every $104 spent, a US user gets 6 PLEX, an EU user gets 5 and a UK user gets 4.

Am I missing something here - or is this just blatant price gouging of non-US users? With regard to the game itself, does this not have a net effect of being huge subsidy from UK and EU users to US users in-game. US players get an additional 34% bonus game-time / training time or ISK (if people are selling PLEX) over every UK user and 10% over every EU one.

The above prices are from what a 6-pack of PLEX costs on Amazon US, France and UK respectively. I'm fairly sure are the same as the CCP website or as close to it as to not matter. Taxes do not seem to explain the difference as the discrepancy is simply way too much to account for it. Obviously there is no shipping costs involved either. The same gulf in value applies for purchases or any number of PLEX (1, 2, 6, 10 etc. etc.)

If I buy off the US Amazon site today, even including the commission from my bank for the transaction being in USD, its still 30% cheaper to buy PLEX in the US than in the UK.


NOTE: I'm not sure what prices are for Russian users or Japanese etc. but I'm not sure it matters much, what i've said above still applies.


This is existed for the entire history of gaming, you are only noticing it now? CCP is doing nothing the rest of the industry hasn't done since the 1980s. I remember when the 32 bit consoles launched and they were effctively double the price in the UK as the US, same with most of the games for them. Today in games like WoT you pay a fraction of the sub cost on the RU server as EU. At least in eve thanks to the single server you can get round it by buying from foreign sites.
Obadja
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-11-05 15:01:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Obadja
This one
and That one

and a few more


unofficial thread ranking:

1. Eve is dying
2. Plexprices are to high / unfair

The EVE mantras:

# Don't fly what you cannot afford to loose ## Work in RL Play in Eve ## Don't build a relationship towards your ship, it won't last ## Press F12, do the Career Agent missions ##
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#26 - 2015-11-05 15:01:25 UTC
Serves you damn communists right.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#27 - 2015-11-05 15:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
How is management responsible for all the add-on expenses your country and credit card company choose to burden you with? Do you really expect merchants worldwide to adjust their pricing and scale it to your particular needs? Most business people price things fairly in order to be competitive. I imagine CCP does the same.

TL;DR All the raises in cost to you using the method you choose to pay have nothing to do with CCP's pricing policy.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Obadja
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-11-05 15:11:35 UTC
Im glad that eve isn't cencored by our government to the point that we are shooting unicorns and rainbows instead of rockets and lasers

The EVE mantras:

# Don't fly what you cannot afford to loose ## Work in RL Play in Eve ## Don't build a relationship towards your ship, it won't last ## Press F12, do the Career Agent missions ##
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#29 - 2015-11-05 16:00:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
You can exchange the money using for example PayPal. And use PayPal to pay for PLEX.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Paranoid Loyd
#30 - 2015-11-05 16:30:04 UTC
Relevant

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Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#31 - 2015-11-05 17:35:54 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
We've got 1000's of years of history and culture P


I can eat this for dinner

http://i.imgur.com/4zcYECR.jpg

Your move, europe
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#32 - 2015-11-05 18:24:24 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
Australians:

- Ripped off when we pay with didgeriedollars
- Our internet speeds are abysmal, only 4 koalas a second
- Downtime is in our primetime.

Stop your whinging.



The first two are problems with your wretched and corrupt government - the third is a fact of temporal geography. Get your government to change the first two, and take heart in the fact that DT occurs in my lunchtime, effectively ripping up my OCD play schedule.


Damn barleyjack Australians

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#33 - 2015-11-05 18:25:30 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
We've got 1000's of years of history and culture P


I can eat this for dinner

http://i.imgur.com/4zcYECR.jpg

Your move, europe



Those things are available outside of your terribly insular country, BTW.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#34 - 2015-11-05 18:36:37 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Those things are available outside of your terribly insular country, BTW.


Insert *ItWasALightheartedJoke.jpg* here

Having spent a lot of time traveling internationally, people in most countries are incredibly insular
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#35 - 2015-11-05 18:37:58 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
We've got 1000's of years of history and culture P


I can eat this for dinner

http://i.imgur.com/4zcYECR.jpg

Your move, europe
In one sitting...you can't move.

Checkmate.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#36 - 2015-11-05 18:42:35 UTC
a song in Itunes costs around CHF 1.60 in Switzerland which is approx. the same in USD. So it is quite common and relatively small here; the difference I mean.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#37 - 2015-11-05 18:42:46 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
We've got 1000's of years of history and culture P


I can eat this for dinner

http://i.imgur.com/4zcYECR.jpg

Your move, europe
I haven't eaten meat in nearly 30 years and yet I found that buffet somehow inviting and appealing. So medieval and barbaric. Crying out to my Nordic DNA, I guess.

Mr Epeen Cool
voetius
Grundrisse
#38 - 2015-11-05 18:45:46 UTC
Polarbear Cuddlebunny wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
LOL This one again....Roll


I did search the forums for things like "Plex price" etc., nothing came up in search results.


It's been answered in other threads. The US prices don't include sales tax because each US state can have a different local sales tax, so you are comparing different things, E.g. UK price inc. VAT and US price before local sales tax is added.
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#39 - 2015-11-05 19:00:29 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I haven't eaten meat in nearly 30 years and yet I found that buffet somehow inviting and appealing. So medieval and barbaric. Crying out to my Nordic DNA, I guess.

Mr Epeen Cool


Crawfish boils are another thing everyone needs to experience at least once in their life. I know there are varying definitions of vegetarianism, not sure if you consider shellfish acceptable

http://i.imgur.com/i6JVYg8.jpg
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#40 - 2015-11-05 19:16:02 UTC
As stated, ccp has no control over taxes and currency. You have the basic sum of all human knowladge at your damn finger tips, look around google for ways to dodge the tax and pay the us ammount (which even with exchange rates would be cheaper in theory with less taxes)

Google, is your friend. Use it

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