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PLEX pricing seems grossly unfair to UK and EU users.

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Polarbear Cuddlebunny
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-11-05 12:57:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Polarbear Cuddlebunny
I was looking at getting more ETC and/or PLEX today and after checking the prices I was surprised to see that US users (well, anyone buying in USD) gain more than 1/3rd extra compared to their UK (GBP buying) counterparts - and 10% more than EU (EUR transacting) users.

Using the MasterCard exchange rates from a few mins ago, a pack of 6 PLEX costs:

USD: 104.00 - ($17.34/PLEX)
EUR: 105.50 - ($114.39 USD - 10% more expensive -- $19.07/PLEX)
GBP: 89.99 - ($138.95 USD - 34% more expensive - $23.16/PLEX)

Put another way, for every $104 spent, a US user gets 6 PLEX, an EU user gets 5 and a UK user gets 4.

Am I missing something here - or is this just blatant price gouging of non-US users? With regard to the game itself, does this not have a net effect of being huge subsidy from UK and EU users to US users in-game. US players get an additional 34% bonus game-time / training time or ISK (if people are selling PLEX) over every UK user and 10% over every EU one.

The above prices are from what a 6-pack of PLEX costs on Amazon US, France and UK respectively. I'm fairly sure are the same as the CCP website or as close to it as to not matter. Taxes do not seem to explain the difference as the discrepancy is simply way too much to account for it. Obviously there is no shipping costs involved either. The same gulf in value applies for purchases or any number of PLEX (1, 2, 6, 10 etc. etc.)

If I buy off the US Amazon site today, even including the commission from my bank for the transaction being in USD, its still 30% cheaper to buy PLEX in the US than in the UK.


NOTE: I'm not sure what prices are for Russian users or Japanese etc. but I'm not sure it matters much, what i've said above still applies.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#2 - 2015-11-05 12:57:51 UTC
LOL This one again....Roll

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That's right.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2015-11-05 12:59:45 UTC
Why would you buy gametime or PLEX in anything other than Dollars anyway? Lol

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Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#4 - 2015-11-05 13:01:12 UTC
Tax and exchange rates. Suggest you move to USA to save money.
Lara Sunji
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-11-05 13:01:27 UTC
Dont buy from CCP directly .... Especially when you know you're getting ripped off compared to other players.
Polarbear Cuddlebunny
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-11-05 13:03:17 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
LOL This one again....Roll


I did search the forums for things like "Plex price" etc., nothing came up in search results.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7 - 2015-11-05 13:03:31 UTC
Did you factor in US taxes?

The U.K. and EU are still more expensive, but with dollar fluctuation and sales taxes, it's not always as large as it seems.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#8 - 2015-11-05 13:06:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Polarbear Cuddlebunny wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
LOL This one again....Roll


I did search the forums for things like "Plex price" etc., nothing came up in search results.

That's probably because there were so many hits, you broke the search function, or the hamster had a heart attack.

It's about the most common subject here and is the cause of all ills and ailments in the game, all combat losses and global unrest. If only PLEX was cheaper, we would have World Peace, or something like that.
Polarbear Cuddlebunny
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-11-05 13:10:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Polarbear Cuddlebunny
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Did you factor in US taxes?

The U.K. and EU are still more expensive, but with dollar fluctuation and sales taxes, it's not always as large as it seems.


That's beside the point - even between the rest of the EU and UK its a large disparity. Plus or minus 5 percent and I wouldn't really care, but there is still a >15% difference between EU and UK. The US disparity seems to just take the **** in how far out of whack it is.

If I bought 6 PLEX off of Amazon US now, how much sales tax would be added (on average - I get it varies state to state) to the $104 price listed?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#10 - 2015-11-05 13:11:17 UTC
Sounds more like your weird, socialist EU tariffs are unfair to those users.

This is basically the "Australia" argument all over again. It's not CCP's fault, it's your country's fault.

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Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2015-11-05 13:20:57 UTC
Polarbear Cuddlebunny wrote:
If I bought 6 PLEX off of Amazon US now, how much sales tax would be added (on average - I get it varies state to state) to the $104 price listed?
If you don't have a US billing address? None, because you can't buy them from Amazon.com without one.

Ask me how I know.

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#12 - 2015-11-05 13:21:35 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Polarbear Cuddlebunny wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
LOL This one again....Roll


I did search the forums for things like "Plex price" etc., nothing came up in search results.

That's probably because there were so many hits, you broke the search function, or the hamster had a heart attack.

.

Now we know what today's extended downtime was about anyway.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#13 - 2015-11-05 13:23:04 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Polarbear Cuddlebunny wrote:
If I bought 6 PLEX off of Amazon US now, how much sales tax would be added (on average - I get it varies state to state) to the $104 price listed?
If you don't have a US billing address? None, because you can't buy them from Amazon.com without one.

Ask me how I know.


At least one state that I know of lets you have a post office box without a state residency, regardless of where your actual residency is. Military guys use tricks like that all the time while deployed overseas, to purchase digital items.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Lara Sunji
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-11-05 13:26:01 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Polarbear Cuddlebunny wrote:
If I bought 6 PLEX off of Amazon US now, how much sales tax would be added (on average - I get it varies state to state) to the $104 price listed?
If you don't have a US billing address? None, because you can't buy them from Amazon.com without one.

Ask me how I know.

Then you make one, and preferably in a state that has no sales tax. Now it magically works in EU as well.
Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#15 - 2015-11-05 13:27:59 UTC
It's called taxes. Blame your Government not CCP.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2015-11-05 13:35:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Lara Sunji wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Polarbear Cuddlebunny wrote:
If I bought 6 PLEX off of Amazon US now, how much sales tax would be added (on average - I get it varies state to state) to the $104 price listed?
If you don't have a US billing address? None, because you can't buy them from Amazon.com without one.

Ask me how I know.

Then you make one, and preferably in a state that has no sales tax. Now it magically works in EU as well.
Not quite that easy, Amazon billing addresses are generally tied and matched to the card used to pay for goods, a US billing address generally means the use of a US credit/debit card tied to that address.

Just for interests sake I did a bit of shopping around the official 3rd party retailers and the best price I can get on 6 PLEX in the UK is between £66.83 and £68.23, depending on whether I pay in £ or € if Google's exchange rate is correct; both prices are on par with the price in USD.

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Pandora Bokks
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#17 - 2015-11-05 13:36:24 UTC
You can always buy from other US resident authorized resellers than Amazon. Problem solved.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#18 - 2015-11-05 13:40:08 UTC
Damn Fareigners: "We got "free" healthcare" !

Muricans: "We got cheaper PLEX AND we don't have to take out a multi-year loan to buy one Gallon of Gas".

Damn Fareigners: "You win"...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#19 - 2015-11-05 14:02:45 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Damn Fareigners: "We got "free" healthcare" !

Muricans: "We got cheaper PLEX AND we don't have to take out a multi-year loan to buy one Gallon of Gas".

Damn Fareigners: "You win"...
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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-11-05 14:12:00 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Damn Fareigners: "We got "free" healthcare" !

Muricans: "We got cheaper PLEX AND we don't have to take out a multi-year loan to buy one Gallon of Gas".

Damn Fareigners: "You win"...


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We also apparently have the sexiest prime minister now.
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