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EVE Online: Crucible 1.0.4 Feedback

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-01-05 11:48:54 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Navigator
EVE Online: Crucible 1.0.4 has been deployed. This update fixes various issues stemming from the Crucible release. Full patch notes will be available later today.

This thread is for general feedback.

If you encounter any issues please use the Crucible 1.0.4 issues thread here.

The patch notes can be found here.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-01-05 11:53:06 UTC
Try releasing patchnotes with the patch, not after..
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-01-05 11:56:41 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Try releasing patchnotes with the patch, not after..


Confirming this. Hard to look at what you possibly broke if there are no notes...
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2012-01-05 12:05:08 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Try releasing patchnotes with the patch, not after..


Confirming this. Hard to look at what you possibly broke if there are no notes...


I completely agree.

We are working hard to get the patch notes released as soon as possible and apologize for this delay.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Genoir
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-05 12:12:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Genoir
nvm, going to check this more.
wanking monkey girl
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-01-05 12:17:41 UTC
found a annoying bug fully repped up a pos just before DT as you do, logged back in to find all the pods where again incaped and the strunt gone from my carrier, also found the carrier 44au from the spot i logged off at. may have been a roll back this will account for the for bug but no notification of said roll back on the server
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc
Agents of Fortune
#7 - 2012-01-05 16:13:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dr Caymus
Edit-moving comment to "issues" thread...
Riggins Avuli
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-01-05 16:50:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Riggins Avuli
I found the patch notes at the usual address:

http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?newpatchlogID=3364
Trevor Nyx
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-01-05 18:43:35 UTC
What are your plans regarding the missing drone control window? Two patches already passed, honestly that shouldnt such an effort ...
Regards.
Anvil44
Independent Traders and Builders
#10 - 2012-01-05 19:57:57 UTC
Trevor Nyx wrote:
What are your plans regarding the missing drone control window? Two patches already passed, honestly that shouldnt such an effort ...
Regards.


I have run across this continually in a Raven I occasionally fly (since Crucible that is). My other ships with drones do not have this issue.

I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-01-05 20:06:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
I just want to report one slightly annoying issue here.... If you leave corp while you have corp deliveries window open (in station), get ready to receive pop ups about "you need junior accountant or trader role to...." every time you dock/log to station after that. As small side effect the entire station services sidebar will be goners for good. You can re-enable it by going to esc menu and toggling station panel icon size, which will reset the services bar and make it visible till you undock/log out. It will be goners next time you come to station again. Only way to fix this is to gain needed roles in your current corporation so that corp deliveries window can be made visible and closed. Then the role can be removed again.

So... fix.... this...

edit: haven't filed a bug report - just for your information.

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Trevor Nyx
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-01-05 20:39:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Trevor Nyx
Anvil44 wrote:
Trevor Nyx wrote:
What are your plans regarding the missing drone control window? Two patches already passed, honestly that shouldnt such an effort ...
Regards.


I have run across this continually in a Raven I occasionally fly (since Crucible that is). My other ships with drones do not have this issue.


Yes, have reported this in the 1.0.x issues thread two times. It seems now solved, my drakes are showing their drone control window again ... ;)

Btw corp hangar array and ship maintenence array windows are now blind when opened in first place. After second activation it shows its contents.
I'thari
#13 - 2012-01-06 19:27:24 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Try releasing patchnotes with the patch, not after..

It's in times like this I wonder whether they actually know what does a patch do or just tinker the code a little and make whole QA team compile brief list of changes made Roll

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#14 - 2012-01-07 04:00:38 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
I just want to report one slightly annoying issue here.... If you leave corp while you have corp deliveries window open (in station), get ready to receive pop ups about "you need junior accountant or trader role to...." every time you dock/log to station after that.


You will also run into this issue if you have 2 characters or accounts on the same EVE installation folder where you happen to leave the deliveries window open when logging out of one with the proper role and then logging into the account/char who does not have the proper role.

The issue is more one of that window being open/closed has a memory that persists across accounts - it needs to remember its state on a character-only basis, not account or install basis.
Alain Kinsella
#15 - 2012-01-07 09:28:20 UTC
Interesting.

Looks like this patch honored junction points (two accounts linked to same 'core' install but different dirs, account one patches, account two did *not* request another patching).

Will watch the next couple of patches (in case I forgot my login order), but a pleasant surprise so far.

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Serceyes
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-01-07 10:21:54 UTC
1). Custom's office window is still randomly closing when selecting the Transfer button. This normally happens when warping to the custom's office.

2). Custom's office does not close automatically when warping away.

3). When Viewing planet in Planet view mode from station the Station Services panel does not minimize automatically.
Akturous
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-01-07 11:08:25 UTC
The salvage changes implemented by CCP have so far had quite the opposite effect on everything but intact armor plates.

The price of intact power circuits (and associated rigs) has tripled since the patch implementation and they are infact dropping far more rarely. Clearly, something is wrong.

I'd like a run down from CCP on what exactly they did with the salvage changes?

I had a thread in issues and workarounds but this seams far more appropriate.

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Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-01-07 18:03:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara
CCP Phantom wrote:
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Nalha Saldana wrote:
Try releasing patchnotes with the patch, not after..


Confirming this. Hard to look at what you possibly broke if there are no notes...


I completely agree.

We are working hard to get the patch notes released as soon as possible and apologize for this delay.
The patch notes should be a part of or derived from the original documentation guiding the patch's coding, testing and release.

If you guys aren't working off of some sort of clearly defined plan for each patch -- one from which patch notes are easily generated -- then there is a problem.

Is this a symptom of the "agile" development methodology? Did you guys lay off too many project managers and team leads?

See also: never have patch notes comprehensively covered the changes made to the EVE service for any given patch. Never. Why?

Feedback: PI graphics are still randomly buggy. This started for me with Crucible.

Alain Kinsella wrote:
Interesting.

Looks like this patch honored junction points (two accounts linked to same 'core' install but different dirs, account one patches, account two did *not* request another patching).

Will watch the next couple of patches (in case I forgot my login order), but a pleasant surprise so far.
I re-installed all my EVE clients using junctions last Fall and all patches that use CCP's OOG installer have honored that configuration (Win7, 64-bit).

The in-game patcher for the minor updates must be run on each discreet client / directory, though.

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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#19 - 2012-01-08 04:53:07 UTC
Part of the delay can result from having to translate dev-speak into people-speak. Including a few rounds of "is this what you meant?".
NiteNinja
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-01-10 21:49:29 UTC
I don't know if its related to this exact patch, or to the whole expansion, but I have noticed several issues...

1. Items seem to "time out" after while. Dragging and dropping from container to container makes it eventually need to be closed/opened, or stacked to refresh the contents to update them. Same applies to ships, and Isk as well (Such as adding a plex, then trying to move isk from your personal wallet to the corp wallet, it still thinks there is the previous amount of isk in your wallet and this requires a client restart)

I am also having issues with some ships. Tengu for starters. Its not exactly flying backwards, but now the engines are ripped off the back of the ship and re-attached to the front of the ship. The rest of the ship is forward flying.

The Caldari Black Ops ship "Widow" IS flying backwards, and still does so even after cache refresh, etc.

I can provide screen shots.
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