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Tengu: Viable for missions, Incursions, exploration, nullsec ratting, wormholes?

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Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#21 - 2012-01-06 13:26:15 UTC
Varnoka wrote:
2 EM hardeners take care of the EM resist excently


Whereas for all rats that don't do significant amounts of EM damage, one hardener (invul for most things, maybe explosive for Angels) is enough and the other mid slot can be filled with, say, another target painter or so.

That's what I meant by "less optimal".

Also, most rats that do significant amounts of EM damage are also fairly resistant to kinetic damage.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-01-06 14:55:07 UTC
Spineker wrote:
Yes and? Guns have the same problem.

There is no Mission Frig or Cruiser in PVE Missions that can out run missiles. Period does not happen not even the most elite of all interceptors to do so would break the game. Not even against Torps and I know I have Level V Mara

That is false name one that does?

There is no I win button but there is a I can balance ship called the Tengu.


Loki is damned awesome also.

In missions? Maybe you're right, although MWDing Spider Drone IIs can hit 6km/s IIRC, which is enough to outrun torps for a short period of time.
In the whole of PvE? You are dead wrong. MWDing Sleeper frigs in a C6 BH can handily outrun a Golem's torps and may even be able to outrun a Tengu's missiles (this is due to the Black Hole's combination of ship speed boost and missile speed nerf).

Turret ships can compensate for fast moving enemies by manually flying to minimize angular. Missile ships can't, and this is a serious problem under circumstances where very fast enemies are present. Fortunately, these circumstances are relatively rare, but they do exist and you should be aware of them.
Spineker
#23 - 2012-01-06 18:35:29 UTC
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:
Spineker wrote:
Yes and? Guns have the same problem.

There is no Mission Frig or Cruiser in PVE Missions that can out run missiles. Period does not happen not even the most elite of all interceptors to do so would break the game. Not even against Torps and I know I have Level V Mara

That is false name one that does?

There is no I win button but there is a I can balance ship called the Tengu.


Loki is damned awesome also.

In missions? Maybe you're right, although MWDing Spider Drone IIs can hit 6km/s IIRC, which is enough to outrun torps for a short period of time.
In the whole of PvE? You are dead wrong. MWDing Sleeper frigs in a C6 BH can handily outrun a Golem's torps and may even be able to outrun a Tengu's missiles (this is due to the Black Hole's combination of ship speed boost and missile speed nerf).

Turret ships can compensate for fast moving enemies by manually flying to minimize angular. Missile ships can't, and this is a serious problem under circumstances where very fast enemies are present. Fortunately, these circumstances are relatively rare, but they do exist and you should be aware of them.



I didn't say the WHOLE of anything I was specific about missions and there are none that out run missiles at this moment. Spider Drones drop to 450m/s when they reach target and orbit. Nothing a precision will not whack in 3 volley anyway even at high speed.
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