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Rorqual Idea / additional role - Manufacturing Ship
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Protector X
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-10-29 18:02:31 UTC
I've long wanted to see a mobile manufacturing ship. With the recent pass over capitals, would adding the ability for the Rorqual to be a mobile manufacturing/research platform work for the ships role?

I recall hearing eventually eve will be able to actually be explored, where new systems can actually be discovered. In such an Eve the ability to manufacture vital resources ammo/modules/ships will become vital for deep space exploration into the unknown, when such manufacturing facilities are many jumps away, how can a fleet hope to survive prolonged periods of time in dangerous regions of space?

This is just how I'd invision such a role being played out, but im sure this could have a great many other applications, especially for nomad type fleets.

Is a manufacturing ship something eve needs? I guess thats the real question.
Xavindo Sirober
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2015-10-29 22:12:09 UTC
jump freighter? you gonna get ammo and other means in, who's going to bring the shiny loot out?
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2015-10-29 22:42:52 UTC
Protector X wrote:


Is a manufacturing ship something eve needs? I guess thats the real question.



Can you think of a situation in which a POS, a medium citadel, or one of the assembly array structures they're apparently working on would not be a better option that keeping a multi billion ISK capital online and in space to manufature ammo?

Or even just having someone bring along an alt in a hoarder?
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-10-30 02:03:53 UTC
This is actually a decent idea, but there are issues regarding how cumbersome a ship like the rorqual is. Ideally they could introduce smaller versions of the craft to handle smaller production jobs, the smallest handling things like fuel and ammunition processing, and the largest like the rorq can handle battleship and capital-level ship production. It's a good idea on paper, but unless they come out with something like the current starbases to use as a cheap staging point, or a cloak field, then i don't see it as being viable on the scale of a ship like the rorq.
Evaian Vaerdin
Silent Knights.
LinkNet
#5 - 2015-10-30 06:02:49 UTC
How about this: When industrial core is deployed, everyone in the system is given mining boosts according to the fit, a POS field goes up ( or tether.. ಠ_ಠ ) and the rorqual is invulnerable.

Only the owner ( or corp roles ) can unanchor the rorqual, in which case they will be immediately and automatically back into the ship. All storage is as usual, and ship manufacturing is allowed.

If you want to be really cool, allow rorquals to act as jump bridges between other rorquals. (only industrials? pref. not)

For uber coolness, you can have rorquals bridge your ore/minerals/(salvage) to other rorquals without jumping your mining barge or whatever.

Oh, and they can bridge combat ventures to cynos. Pirate


They can be captured, but only unanchored after 7 days of failing to be retaken. (?)
Protector X
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-11-02 21:17:16 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Protector X wrote:


Is a manufacturing ship something eve needs? I guess thats the real question.



Can you think of a situation in which a POS, a medium citadel, or one of the assembly array structures they're apparently working on would not be a better option that keeping a multi billion ISK capital online and in space to manufature ammo?

Or even just having someone bring along an alt in a hoarder?


In any situation where you are not staying in one spot for a long period of time. Its not common now, but if exploring new star systems become a thing, a manufacturing facility that can move with you would be needed. Current manufacturing methods is for sedentary life, where a corp/alliance lives relatively in one area for an extended period of time. What if your corp alliance only stay'd in one area for a week or 2 weeks at a time before moving? It may not even be possible to move a citadel, and if Citadel's replace PoS's, then you wont even have the option to pack up and move. Thats the role I see something like this having, whether or not its the rorq picking up this role, idk.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2015-11-02 21:24:32 UTC
That's the sort of situation you'd use a disposable manufacturing deployable for, not several billion ISK of highly vulnerable capital ship.

Anyway, a medium citadel is looking at being 600 million.

A rorqual is what, two billion?

Which would you rather leave floating in space building your stuff?
Protector X
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-11-02 22:11:59 UTC
Why do you assume it has to be left in space or left permenantly online to manufacture? Anyway, i think you are missing the whole point here.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-11-02 22:26:11 UTC
The idea is somewhat cool but is it said above the price of Rorq makes ot doubt. Even if you grab Orca and med Citadel in case it's going to be able carried in Orca would allow you to quickly deploy in new space and even provide some sort of protection better than Rorq.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2015-11-02 23:01:33 UTC
Protector X wrote:
Why do you assume it has to be left in space or left permenantly online to manufacture? Anyway, i think you are missing the whole point here.


Why do you think you should be able to manufacture things in a wormhole in absolute safety?
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#11 - 2015-11-02 23:23:39 UTC
Protector X wrote:
I've long wanted to see a mobile manufacturing ship. With the recent pass over capitals, would adding the ability for the Rorqual to be a mobile manufacturing/research platform work for the ships role?

I recall hearing eventually eve will be able to actually be explored, where new systems can actually be discovered. In such an Eve the ability to manufacture vital resources ammo/modules/ships will become vital for deep space exploration into the unknown, when such manufacturing facilities are many jumps away, how can a fleet hope to survive prolonged periods of time in dangerous regions of space?

This is just how I'd invision such a role being played out, but im sure this could have a great many other applications, especially for nomad type fleets.

Is a manufacturing ship something eve needs? I guess thats the real question.

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