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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#41 - 2015-10-31 01:05:29 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Kim these days doesn't even seem to try to hide the fact that she's playing you all for a fool.

Kimmy has mastered the craft of trolling these fourms..... she could post a blank reply and get a bite...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#42 - 2015-10-31 10:10:15 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

You forgot the part where the Amarr Empire basically enslave everyone

Ignorance overload, communications failure.
Who let the clowns out?

That's why it is practically useless to speak with gallenteans and tribals. They blame you in stuff you never did and keep shouting with foam at the mouth without bringing a single evidence. Moreover, claims like that (like Amarr Empire enslave everyone) contradict even common sense.

I mean, really, how you can be stupid like that. I have myself been in the Empire, and if it would be enslaving everyone... Do I look like a slave now?


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Unchallenged_Era_of_the_Amarr_Empire

Read the whole damned thing and know your history. You sound like an uneducated buffoon who only knew how to hold a gun, a complete anti-thesis of your typical Caldari (well-educated and knows how to shoot at you five ways to Sunday).

If anyone here is sounding like an uneducated buffoon, it is you, tribal.
The conversation was in the present tense about current Amarr slave policies, and even you have answered in the present tense. And now as I have challenged your groundless words, you are trying to "prove" them by linking facts from ancient history?...

I can say only two things about the situation you have just put yourself it:
Get the hell out of here, Egivand, and keep silence when adults talk.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#43 - 2015-10-31 20:16:41 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
keep silence when adults talk.

so, you're not going to post anymore?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#44 - 2015-10-31 20:36:44 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
keep silence when adults talk.

so, you're not going to post anymore?

Osyn.
I am speechless.
Are you really that dumb?..

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#45 - 2015-10-31 20:43:39 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
keep silence when adults talk.

so, you're not going to post anymore?

Osyn.
I am speechless.
Are you really that dumb?..

Obviously not speechless enough. And, no, I'm not. But do believe it was worth the shot, no matter how long.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#46 - 2015-10-31 22:28:17 UTC
Taking into account your common usage of lies in your posts, Osyn, I'd rather not believe your answer.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#47 - 2015-11-01 02:05:08 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Taking into account your common usage of lies in your posts, Osyn, I'd rather not believe your answer.

Not lies. Biased observations.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2015-11-02 03:17:44 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:

You forgot the part where the Amarr Empire basically enslave everyone

Ignorance overload, communications failure.
Who let the clowns out?

That's why it is practically useless to speak with gallenteans and tribals. They blame you in stuff you never did and keep shouting with foam at the mouth without bringing a single evidence. Moreover, claims like that (like Amarr Empire enslave everyone) contradict even common sense.

I mean, really, how you can be stupid like that. I have myself been in the Empire, and if it would be enslaving everyone... Do I look like a slave now?


https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Unchallenged_Era_of_the_Amarr_Empire

Read the whole damned thing and know your history. You sound like an uneducated buffoon who only knew how to hold a gun, a complete anti-thesis of your typical Caldari (well-educated and knows how to shoot at you five ways to Sunday).

If anyone here is sounding like an uneducated buffoon, it is you, tribal.
The conversation was in the present tense about current Amarr slave policies, and even you have answered in the present tense. And now as I have challenged your groundless words, you are trying to "prove" them by linking facts from ancient history?...

I can say only two things about the situation you have just put yourself it:
Get the hell out of here, Egivand, and keep silence when adults talk.


Why yes, the current conflict between the State and the Federation has roots from a previous conflict while the current conflict between the Republic and the Empire doesn't.

The State can get all angry with the Federation because the Federation tried to assimilate the State and kicked out the State from Caldari Prime when they refused while the Republic cannot get angry with the Empire because previously the Empire had enslaved almost all its citizens and dismantled the previous Minmatar Empire.

Congratulations, you have once again proven yourself the master of hypocrisy.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#49 - 2015-11-02 08:53:29 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Why yes, the current conflict between the State and the Federation has roots from a previous conflict while the current conflict between the Republic and the Empire doesn't.

The State can get all angry with the Federation because the Federation tried to assimilate the State and kicked out the State from Caldari Prime when they refused while the Republic cannot get angry with the Empire because previously the Empire had enslaved almost all its citizens and dismantled the previous Minmatar Empire.

Congratulations, you have once again proven yourself the master of hypocrisy.

Look, you, tribal, both had roots in the past, yet I was telling about not the past but CURRENT conflicts. And current conflict between State and Federation was caused by the Federation, just like one from 200 years ago.

In Amarr-Minmatar scenario conflict from history was initiated by the Empire, but current conflict was started by Minmatars.

So, could you please stop shining your ignorance and trying to blame me ridiculously in hypocrisy based on something I never said but was resided in your little tribal brain, eh? You'll do way greater service to yourself and I will save time to answer to such stupid rants of yours.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#50 - 2015-11-02 10:12:52 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Okay, you, tribal, the war is going on for whole seven years now. Name at least one planet that was glassed by the Empire in these seven years. I am not asking about all other crap you have suggested, but could you at least point at the glassing?


Seven years?

Maybe your war is that new. For some, the war's been going on for a thousand years. And Starkman Prime, among others, was - if not glassed - subjected to a brutal regime of extermination against its populace.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#51 - 2015-11-02 10:19:53 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
In Amarr-Minmatar scenario conflict from history was initiated by the Empire, but current conflict was started by Minmatars.


Only if you take the view that they are two separate conflicts. For many in the Tribes, they are one millennia-long war that has been waged against our people, and continues to be waged against them. For them, it will not be ended so long as a single Matari is enslaved, and they do not recognize the authority of any government to claim an end to that war unless it is the one that our people had when we were attacked.

And you have no standing within the Tribes to say that they are wrong.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#52 - 2015-11-02 10:21:41 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Okay, you, tribal, the war is going on for whole seven years now. Name at least one planet that was glassed by the Empire in these seven years. I am not asking about all other crap you have suggested, but could you at least point at the glassing?


Seven years?

Maybe your war is that new. For some, the war's been going on for a thousand years. And Starkman Prime, among others, was - if not glassed - subjected to a brutal regime of extermination against its populace.

I didn't know you are a tribal as well. But whatever, it isn't important much.
What is important is your ignorance that the war between Amarr Empire and Minmatar Republic has began seven years ago just like ours.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#53 - 2015-11-02 10:39:34 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I didn't know you are a tribal as well. But whatever, it isn't important much.
What is important is your ignorance that the war between Amarr Empire and Minmatar Republic has began seven years ago just like ours.


A war between political entities. As meaningless as your little tiff with the Federation - at least, unless your defense of that Fed aggrandizer in your other thread is an indicator of your true sympathies. What I'm speaking of is the war between peoples - the Amarr and the Matari, our cultures, our ways of living, our identities as ourselves. An existential war, not merely the political posturing you seem to think actually has meaning. The State's endless bickering against the Federation is ultimately no different than MOA's foreverwar against the Imperium. Meaningless. Empty. A footnote in the annals of history, nothing more.
Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#54 - 2015-11-02 10:54:41 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I didn't know you are a tribal as well. But whatever, it isn't important much.
What is important is your ignorance that the war between Amarr Empire and Minmatar Republic has began seven years ago just like ours.


A war between political entities. As meaningless as your little tiff with the Federation - at least, unless your defense of that Fed aggrandizer in your other thread is an indicator of your true sympathies. What I'm speaking of is the war between peoples - the Amarr and the Matari, our cultures, our ways of living, our identities as ourselves. An existential war, not merely the political posturing you seem to think actually has meaning. The State's endless bickering against the Federation is ultimately no different than MOA's foreverwar against the Imperium. Meaningless. Empty. A footnote in the annals of history, nothing more.


You are right of course, but ultimately, everything less than a footnote, for even history will disappear into the aether at some point. At the personal level, however - which is all we can experience, whatever our lifespan may be in measured time - these things can matter very deeply indeed.

All actions are political. When we act we create meaning; if not for history, then for our own story.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#55 - 2015-11-02 23:33:16 UTC
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:

You are right of course, but ultimately, everything less than a footnote, for even history will disappear into the aether at some point. At the personal level, however - which is all we can experience, whatever our lifespan may be in measured time - these things can matter very deeply indeed.

All actions are political. When we act we create meaning; if not for history, then for our own story.

Politics often are just ways to hide underlying motives. And that's why I am rather proud being in the State.
When we go for conflict, we openly say: we need these resources and we are going to take them. This planet is our homeworld and we will have it back. These colonies are ours and we will defend them. These colonists are ours too and we won't let you kill them. We may discuss how good meritocracy is and how our way of life, how our management is superior to gallente. But in the war we just fight for our assets and our peoples.

Both Federation with State and Empire with Republic conflicts go down to this.
The State wants our homeworld back.
The Federation wants our Black Rise.
The Republic wants to steal people from the Empire.
The Amarr... well, I think only they keep themselves at defensive stance yet. Well, maybe except of Lord Kador (I hope he will win the trials...), who wanted a piece of Federation...
Politics is used to keep mostly our own soldiers well motivated to show that we are right, pointing on faults on enemies, represented through the prism of world view of nation ideals.

For example such specific nation ideal could be a chaos (or as they call it - freedom, which is basically same word, at least in our language). For us and Amarr it is unpleasant and undesirable condition, while gallentes and minmatar blindly adore it, believeing it will bring them, I don't know... happiness or good living.

So, when minmatar comes to steal Amarr citizens and scream: "For Chaos!" Other minmatars raise their fists in the air and scream: "HOORAAAY!"

And Caldari would think: "What a moron..."

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#56 - 2015-11-02 23:36:24 UTC
Kim would love to chaos the hell out of those POW'S in black rise, I bet....

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#57 - 2015-11-02 23:38:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Deitra Vess
There is so many things wrong with that statement its kinda' funny.

Edit: Kim's statement not Tyrels.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#58 - 2015-11-02 23:45:44 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
There is so many things wrong with that statement its kinda' funny.

Edit: Kim's statement not Tyrels.

Wait, it's not funny, or there's nothing wrong with it?

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#59 - 2015-11-02 23:54:11 UTC
Well, there are too many things wrong about Tyrel and his replies...
Probably just a display of his minmatarness.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#60 - 2015-11-02 23:54:50 UTC
Half of Kim's response there was soo wrong I was laughing. And I hope those prisoners don't get the freedom they deserve. Freedom is so horrible after all so they should go up against a wall. Just like our kin tyrel, their "chaos" is soo unimportant and wrong. Ha this is so stupid its funny!